• Jasz the Stampede
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    2 years ago

    idk but in Poland the 99% had a terrible experience with socialism, and I think that’s the case for nearly everyone who had to go through it, except the parasite class (communist party elites) who own everything… ultimately the theory is wrong because it never turned out how they said it would

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      Actually, if you look at the surveys about socialism in Eastern Europe, Poland included, and break them down by age range, a pattern shows up where the older generation that actually lived in the USSR for a good portion of their lives have consistently more favourable views of it than younger adults who were born shortly before or after the USSR’s collapse.

      Sources and more info: https://dessalines.github.io/essays/socialism_faq.html#did-the-citizens-of-the-soviet-union-dislike-their-government

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        Are you sure it’s “Poland included”? I’ve glanced through those links (many of which were random blogs with no sources) and they either didn’t say anything about Poland or didn’t say that older generation held more favorable views of USSR times. When it comes to elections majority of older generation vote for ultra-nationalist fascist party whose only ideology is being anti-communist and screeching that left-wing is bad. Majority of the rest of votes from people aged 50+ go to liberals. From my personal experience talking with people from that demographic I have yet to find someone who misses USSR times.

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        Sometimes people like things that aren’t good for them, like if you’ve ever known someone who is stuck in a bad relationship they ignore the shockingly horrible things and just focus on some happy memory or something they are desperately holding onto. I agree Soviet nostalgia is cool but if it was really that great it wouldn’t have collapsed, you know

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          It’s extremely presumptuous to just assume that the people who lived through BOTH socialism and capitalism are mistaken or have Stockholm syndrome or whatever for liking socialism. Like, did YOU live through both and have that unique point of comparison between them? Instead of dismissing their opinions and refusing to even consider that they might have a point, maybe look to them for first hand insight into how socialism compared to capitalism?

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            2 years ago

            Not everybody has the same opinion, even people like me who experienced both. I’m not dismissing theirs, but you are definitely dismissing ours