I’m just wondering what the title asks: do you organize your groceries in the order you will check them out, if doing self-checkout, or arrange them on the belt/counter in a standard checkout line, in the hope that they’ll be bagged in a specific way?

I didn’t know there was any other way people do it, but just learned some people prefer to checkout/bag without pre-arranging things. I’m kind of curious to see what’s more common, or if there’s some other options I haven’t considered?

  • @kernelle@0d.gs
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    278 months ago

    As a European, I have never once had an extra person there whose sole purpose is putting your groceries into bags, what a strange concept.

    • @Dave@lemmy.nz
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      148 months ago

      Here in New Zealand, different supermarket chains do it different.

      • One is literally called Pak n Save, you pack your own bags.
      • One very often has a second person packing bags. This is a pricier store.
      • And one just has the cashier drop your things into the bag after they have scanned them.

      The third one seems most natural to me. Why not have them put your stuff in a bag since they are already holding it?

    • @governorkeagan@lemdro.id
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      88 months ago

      I can’t speak for the US, but in poorer countries (like my home country of South Africa), it’s common for someone to bag your groceries. The simple reason is because it provides extra jobs at the store. It’s the same for filling your car with petrol.

      • @kernelle@0d.gs
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        48 months ago

        So is it customary to tip the person doing the bagging? Or maybe a designated bagger will do it faster, resulting in less wait times?

        My favourite system is where I place my cart next to another one, and the cashier will scan everything while placing the item in the other cart, where I could have placed boxes if I wanted to.

        It’s the same for filling your car with petrol.

        But how does this person provide any value though? That person has to be paid as well, and doing something a customer can do well by themselves provides very little value. It used to be necessary, older petrol pumps had to be manually enabled or had no stop valve that person is required. With modern pumps having a person fill up your car is equally unnecessary.

        • @governorkeagan@lemdro.id
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          28 months ago

          So is it customary to tip the person doing the bagging?

          When I was in South Africa, this wasn’t very common. I suppose you could tip them but there isn’t a very big tipping culture there.

          Or maybe a designated bagger will do it faster, resulting in less wait times?

          Personally, I’ve never thought that having a designated bagger was that much faster (by themselves). Sometimes you’d see someone helping the bagger, this would be faster.

          But how does this person provide any value though?

          It’s not necessarily about the value they provide. Since unemployment is so high, if you can create extra jobs, the business will do it. When I left, unemployment in my province was at 50%.

          It’s the same for self checkout. You could easily do it yourself but you’d lose out on potential jobs (bagger and cashier). This article is really good at showing why these systems are the way they are.

          • @kernelle@0d.gs
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            18 months ago

            It’s not necessarily about the value they provide

            That’s how a business works though, people do work of value which the business provides to its customers. I know nothing of the situation is SA but ordering business to lose more money doesn’t seem like the way to go. I’ll agree with the other comment calling for UBI.

            That article wasn’t helpful though, just a whole lot of people talking with too much conflict of interest.

    • @Kache@lemm.ee
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      38 months ago

      I think people are being lazy, in a selfish, tragedy of the commons sort of way.

      When standing in line, they all watch the customer stand there doing nothing as the cashier checks out items. If only they’d bag their own things, we’d all be able to get on with our lives that much sooner. Instead, they continue standing there doing nothing, as the cashier now bags their items.

      Then the next person in line moves up and also just stands there, also unwilling to do anything to help speed things along.

    • @Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz
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      8 months ago

      There was this one time when I got that service at an Asian store (in Europe). I guess the Asian workers just imported the practices of their home country, which is nice.

    • hash
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      28 months ago

      As an american who shops and walks my groceries home like a european, the self checkout is the only option for me. I must have the ability to choose where to put products to keep my bags/backpack balanced to my liking and to prevent bags from failing on my walk home. Stranglely in the us, i risk approaching the “self checkout item limit” which is definitely more social expectation than actually enforced by staff.

      A more specific question for you: how often do you encounter scales on self checkouts?

      • @kernelle@0d.gs
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        28 months ago

        walks my groceries home like a european

        We do buy bulk as well, I’d say maybe 10% actually walks them home? I guess it depends greatly on the type and location of the store.

        how often do you encounter scales on self checkouts?

        Every store with self-checkout has them, usually there will be one scale before you actually use a register. It gives you a sticker with the weight/price barcode to scan yourself.