I was just perusing the modlog when I noticed something interesting. Apparently posting news about Gaza/Palestine is not allowed on !worldnews@sh.itjust.works. I decided to check the side bar and didn’t see anything. The only pinned post also does not indicate that this is not allowed
edit: the mod in question is @Eyekaytee@aussie.zone . sorry for not originally tagging. i hadn’t realized it was a rule that this must be done. i thought it seemed inappropriate since i was trying to initiate a conversation about a community’s rules and culture rather than start drama about an individual
Is just that comm shitty or should the instance be avoided too?
Comm meaning community?
yeah that’s the lingo that’s arisen on lemmy
The instance is a Nazi bar, the two biggest comms are circlejerks for anti-communism and pro-western imperialism. There are some good users on occasion, but the instance itself is very reactionary.
Damn, I just picked an instance with an interesting name back when Reddit died. I didn’t need this baggage
Never too late!
Anti-tankies ≠ anti-communism
tankiejerking: not anti-communism, yet overwhelmingly populated with anticommunists
Ayyy my buddy diva is back. Wonder how you always manage to find my comments deep in these threads.
To your point, MWoG users are anti- authoritarian. This necessitates anti-tankieism and anti-Marxism-Leninism.
lmao
So you’re not going to refute my point then?
I laughed at your starting premise, some of the heaviest users of the place are arch-nafoists
Wtf is an “arch-nafoist”?
“Tankie” is just a pejorative for communists, it lets anti-communists pretend that they aren’t actually anti-communist when in reality they would oppose “tankies” such as Nelson Mandela, W.E.B Dubois, etc that support(ed) socialist states.
Tankie isn’t a pejorative for communists, it’s a pejorative for Marxist-Leninists aka those who put anti-West sentiments above concern for the working class. Upholding a “if the US says it’s bad we should support it” mindset
Marxist-Leninists make up the vast majority of practicing communists, historically and currently. Further, the term is also applied to anarchists, Marxists in general, etc, by anyone wishing to invoke the image of “commie but just like McCarthy described them.”
This is brushing aside your horribly incorrect description of Marxism-Leninism, of course.
Notice how you said “is applied” not “you apply”. You’re attacking a straw man buddy. There are anarchists on MWoG, and this discussion is about how MWoG users use the term.
It’s pretty concise and sums up the typical discourse you guys have
I don’t call people “tankies,” because I’m not an anti-communist, be they anarchists or not. Not sure what this point is.
Secondly, no, it’s an awful summation of Marxism-Leninism, and you know that.
There you go again feigning ignorance like you don’t know what I’m talking about
No it’s not. All you guys do is defend imperialist and authoritarian regimes😆.
I can’t remember the last time an ml showed concern for the working class
My community, !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works, which Cowbee loathes – Is not anti-communism and not pro-imperialism. We are anti-imperialism, unlike Cowbee, who defends Chinese Imperialism.
It documents hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse.
Oh! I know that community! I didn’t know you ran it. You’re a dipshit
It’s definitionally an anti-communist circlejerk, that’s its entire point. I am a communist, so I do oppose your anti-communist stalker-farm. There’s constant dogwhistling, defense of zionism, transphobia, etc from that cesspool of a comm.
There are communists within !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works and the community itself allows communists and communist theory. It’s a diverse community where people are free to discuss different topics, unlike your spaces, which regularly censor dissent and criticism.
And you are not a communist, Cowbee, you’re a tankie, you’ve said so yourself.
But tell me, where is this supposed dogwhistling, where is this defence of Israel’s actions, where is this transphobia? I’ll look into it for you
The community of MWoG exists purely to attack communists. I have always said I’m a communist, you can read the screengrab yourself to see:
As for transphobia, here’s your server admin pushing transphobic conspiracy theories in your comm:
As for Zionism, here are your own posts and comments:
I don’t know why I’m responding because I feel you act in extremely bad faith. MoG is a terrible comm, and I think that is why you are seeing transphobia upvoted. I think people see “China bad lol” and are frothing at the mouth upvoting it before even considering wtf he said after it. To say that’s the ENTIRE INSTANCE is so extremely bad faith, or maybe you truly believe that because you haven’t seen any of the normal people on the instance.
Also bad faith to say “tankie” = communist/socialist. That wiki page is also bad faith, unless I have just somehow managed to see it used differently 100/100 times I’ve seen it used as a perjorative. Tankie implies defending Russia and China/ Soviet Union heavily, NOT just being a communist/socialist. Even the Wikipedia page says this… You can disagree but actually ask people if that’s what they mean. If someone says the wikipedia definition and you interpret it as something else without clarifying, you are very likely misinterpreting them. Very bad faith to say “it’s just being communist/socialist bro they just hate good ideologies bro” like cmon be an adult. “Tankie” does not just mean communist. Disgraceful misinforming people just to try and win an argument.
To clarify, I stated that the instance is a Nazi bar, as in there are some massive zionists, fascists, etc. allowed to roam freely, but that this doesn’t describe the entire instance:
Secondly, the word “tankie” in its social use is as an anti-communist pejorative. It’s a strawman with ready-made characteristics built up by anti-communists to avoid actually having to address the arguments of communists. The wikipedia page isn’t maintained by a communist, it’s maintained primarily by liberals, they aren’t looking at it from the communist perspective.
Neither link I sourced was bad-faith, either, unless you mean the communist perspective on a pejorative for communists is inherently bad-faith. It doesn’t matter what an individual specifically means by using “tankie,” in its social practice it just means “communist, but I don’t like it.”
You’re in a tankie instance, Cowbee; you hang out with tankies and repeat tankie talking points. You are a tankie and you’re not fooling anyone with your disingenuous fantasies about being a moralist, if you were, prove it now by criticising the Russian government, or better yet, Chinese imperialism.
You won’t, because you are a tankie.
As for Imaqtpie, I do not approve of him. I have quite the turbulent history with him.
I’ve also been more supportive of trans-rights and gender recognition than you have, Cowbee.
Oh, and even more, the lemmy developers, admins of the instance you use, lemmy.ml, are also transphobic, which is what imaqtpie was agreeing with, funnily enough.
That didn’t work out too well for you lol
“Tankie” is just a pejorative for communist, it isn’t an ideology. Call me “tankie” all you want, but at the end of the day I read Marxist-Leninist theory and volunteer for a Marxist-Leninist org that has stances in line with the rest of Marxist-Leninist organizations. You can’t claim to not be an anti-communist, you maintain an anti-communist comm and oppose communism.
Secondly, showing a handful of times you’ve spoken about sex and gender doesn’t mean you’re more supportive, especially since I have already explained that I disagree firmly with Nutomic:
The Russian government is a homophobic dictatorship of capital. China isn’t imperialist, it doesn’t run its economy based on international plunder, export of capital, nor is it under the control of a financial oligarchy.
Everyone has read theory, Cowbee, you’re not a special sort for reading theory. Though, since you’re such an expert in it, enlighten me, what were Marx’s quotes on Africans and Jews?
cw: antisemitic and racist slurs
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/its-time-talk-about-karl-marxs-racism-181292
And it’s nice you firmly disagree, very neolib of you, writing a firmly worded letter to your master, well done. Here I was thinking that a tankie such as yourself would put a bit of action and elbow-grease into your morals and completely leave lemmy.ml for the developer’s transphobia. Foolish of me.
Firstly, stop using my fucking community as a bludgeon against people you don’t like.
Secondly, this is transphobic you numbskull.
Thirdly, y’all are acting like fucking children, Grow Up!
Holy shit, goat edited the link you gave. Like 3 hours ago they edited it, which is after you linked it, and months after they posted it. They removed your evidence.
The bill gave trans women maternity rights
I don’t think your pet nazi learned their lesson from the one week slap on the wrist
They don’t make such comments within my community, which was one of the conditions for their unbanning. I take hate-speech very seriously.
clearly not that seriously, that’s why you are so comfortable hanging out with racists and nazis
There are no racists or nazis within my community, I moderate very strictly. And you’re comfortable hanging out with Tankies, you’re even one yourself. So don’t lecture me about bars when you’ve bought the tankie bar drinks.
perhaps you should fall for another fake post and then have to backtrack?
I would like to introduce you to the concept of satire. Two examples of making fun of the contrived and ominous-sounding name your crew came up with.
Also in my defense the post about you sending hairy asshole pics to harass people was extremely funny and fits with the character you put forward online.
lmao
You should be the one being introduced to satire considering you fell for it lol
the instance is pretty shitty too
The only instances this instance defederated from were hexbear and exploding heads, hexbear for just being toxic under every single thread. I would see under a post of the uyghur genocide “China incapable of avoiding human rights violations” and people saying “capitalist bootlicker, kys.” Just really unpleasant and a waste of everyone’s time and energy… I can probably find evidence if you want I just generally avoid toxic behavior so I just stopped reading it. Meanwhileongrad is a sneer comm, I blocked it a long time ago. It’s really cringe to spend your time looking for people to make fun of…
Imo very bad faith to say this instance hates communists or socialists, most people here want to implement communist and socialist ideas and hate capitalism. But saying “china is extremely racist and commits human rights violations” and “Russia is trying to be a conquerer” = you hate communism and socialism.
I want more communist policies. I want more socialist policies. I can think China and Russia are doing evil things while still hating capitalism.