The names and photos should be assessable of all federal staff on US soil.
I wonder how kidnappy the kidnappers would be if they faced justice.
We need to publish home addresses, make them scared.
So there actually is a federal (felony) law against that, but not against sharing their names: 18 U.S. Code § 119. This is the most a website could legally get away with, at least for US Citizens. It may not apply to Ice List’s designer, but I am not a lawyer.
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MLK started abandoning this system and then he was killed.
Black Panthers disregarded this system which led to COINTELPRO tactics being used to instigate infighting and divisions. Also gun laws became harsher since the non-whites starting arming up.
The fact that these gestapo fucks all wear masks and are hell bent on not being identified gives cause to believe they require identification.
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Im not sure about the MLK comment in particular, may have misremembered on that one. But he did get assassinated 1 month before he was set to kick off the Poor Peoples Party.
Im not sure what you missed re:Black Panthers
The other thing I didn’t mention previously was the amount of violent actions taken against citizens. Rainbow Coalition attacks, bombing a neighborhood, Kent State, and that’s just the Civil Rights era.
Doxxing isn’t inciting violence, its identification. Ive been doxxed before and i never felt threats of violence were coming my way.
Beyond that, I’ve never incited violence in any way like you’re describing. Maybe the fascists should be less violent if they’re worried about violent reprisals though?
That shipped sailed a long ass time ago. Normalcy won’t be returning anytime soon.
Tennessee Rep. Marsha Blackburn wants the identities of federal officials carrying out President Donald Trump’s deportation campaign to remain secret for security reasons. To that end, she introduced the Protecting Law Enforcement from Doxxing Act, which would make it illegal to publish the name of a federal law enforcement officer with the intent to obstruct a criminal investigation or immigration operation. Skinner, for his part, has proposed the opposite: to publish as many names of the officers and their collaborators as possible.
This list is for future prosecutions, and as such doesn’t run afoul of this proposed law.
So we are already at the point where ice agents will be put in prison?
Yeah, it’s called a “Most Wanted” list. It’s where criminals end up when they break the law often enough.
“I want to publicly shame them into resigning, because they don’t wear masks for safety. They wear them because they know their neighbors won’t invite them to dinner anymore, that their children or their children’s friends’ parents won’t want them at a baseball game. They care about their personal lives, but not about their safety,” Skinner said in a telephone interview with EL PAÍS from the Netherlands, where he lives.
This is the way.
They are literally covering their faces because they are afraid on the public. They are normal people just like you and I. They need money to support their family just like you and I. Focusing on individual agents is wasteful and cruel.
If a civil war comes, people will need to be able to say they were wrong and switch sides, which means that ICE agents will in fact help save the country.
Being bigoted is not helpful.
If a civil war comes we need to know who isn’t trustworthy in leadership. This is a list of those people.
Your misuse of the word “bigoted” is disgraceful. These people chose to lock up other humans in cages to be shipped to countries with worse cages.
They can support their families by getting a real job and not being a class traitor.
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There is nothing normal about what ICE agents are doing. If they had a shred of humanity, they wouldn’t carry out such heinous acts.
Throwing away your humility means you don’t get treated as such. Simple as that.
Funny how Reddit doesn’t like this.
Because its hard to argue the point of the website isn’t violence. At best I think we would have to admit it’s likely to at least have the side effect of violence.
Lemmy has this thing where one person goes “sometimes violence is necessary” and then their replies are about attacking people not defending. This concept that we need to be bigger and tougher than fascism is simply absurd, and focusing on individual ICE agents is missing the whole point.
If it’s extremely dangerous to be an ICE agent the problem solves its self.
Fascism requires censorship and Reddit is popular enough to facilitate the regime.
I like the idea, but I’m nervous that he’s using AI to build up the rest of the face from limited images. I didn’t see anything in the article - any idea how he’s verifying these people are ICE agents before publishing their names?
If it’s the same project then they are using AI to reconstruct faces, finding matches on social media, then they scan the social media for real evidence. Something like parallel construction or fusion centers except they start with synthetic “evidence” before discovering real evidence.
They take advantage of the fact many people don’t realize you can easily bring up someone’s Facebook by scanning their face. I don’t think they can find ICE members who are secretive and careful, but it’s unlikely many ICE members are that meticulous.
I think I read in another article a few weeks back that they have real people verifying the results as well?
Nope. Same as any other random person on the internet, they have no third party fact checking, they have no incentive to be honest and truthful, and their motivations could literally be anything.
It could be a honeypot to pull everyone who visits the site. It could have non-ICE agents in the database to try to incite violence against non-ICE agents. It could simply be a list of a persons enemies from highschool.
It could also be legit, but I’m not going to take the effort to figure it out, because I dont think its that useful of a website even if it is real.
If they’ve done nothing wrong then there’s no reason to hide.
Whatever anyone’s thoughts about ICE, their children don’t deserve to live in fear.
Ya trap what you fucking sow, an eye for an eye and all that. These piss wads shouldve considered their kin before, any stray rounds are firmly on the guy kidnapping and beating folks not the guy pulling the trigger.
Lib take. These ICE agents are threatening families and you expect their families not to get threatened. Miss me with that double standard. The ICE agents are setting their kids up for failure.
I agree, their parents should stop doing things so evil that they have to live in fear.
Whatever your thoughts about immigration, neither immigrants or their children deserve to live in fear of violence from a government, particularly one that claims all people have certain “unalienable rights”.
They deserve to know the truth, that their parent is a fascist who doesn’t care about constitutional rights or empathy.
Fuck off
i woudlnt be surprised if most of them are “unhireables” in other jobs. the people that cant even get hired by walmart and amazon due thier behaviour that they are knowingly aware of, where they take anyone.
People who flunked out of police academy for being too stupid and violent
Most of them are tied to the american dream, which says that you can never earn less than you have before or else you are a failure. Its why a lot of people here simply won’t adjust to lower levels of income, they’d rather be unemployed. This leads to peolle feeling trapped and limited in job choice. They’d rather work for ICE than to downsize their house or car, but only barely.
ICE agents are not happy. They are paid incredibly well, and thats it. If order actually breaks down, they are just as likely to fight against tyranny than for it. They are just like any other citizens.
If your police cover their faces, they are not doing good work.
Bandits
The whole masked officers thing really got me wondering how society would respond to a Batman like figure. I don’t think I realized bofore the ICE raids how absolutely horrible the concept of masked superheros was for a free society, even after consuming some media that tried to focus on this issue, like the Watchmen.
Police have never existed to serve the populace, they solely exist to protect the capital of the wealthy.
Police are a Status Quo maintenence force. The status quo fucking sucks.
But that’s on a different level than being allowed to cover your face while destroying lives and saying it is justified because occasionally you enforce laws
Define “never”. Never in as in never in the history of 21st century America? Pretty tame assertion. Never in the anthropological sense? That would be completely farcical.
Does this guy even know a time before 2010?
Uh… WTF are you smoking? You got any references to back up that pompous retort, or are you banking on the confidence of your palm alone to carry that wet fart aloft?
It’s a cruel twist of fate that the only ICE agent who doesn’t hide their face is Kristi Noem.
She has hidden her face behind a plastic mask permanently sewn on
