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lovehate how in movies and tv shows about old times warfare there are all of these maps everywhere and in depth discussions of how they’re going to beat the enemy, discussion of battle tactics, etc. and the only real tactics we see in execution are when which side decides to charge in an undisciplined massAlso the spinning. It was truly a sad day in history when weaponry and martial arts split from dancing. While ballerinas did master the art of spinning, its loss in warfare can still be seen to this day.
HBO’s Rome has the second one. But on account of their smaller budget, you only really see a very zoomed in section of it all. Still a great attention to detail, as most things in that show.
Great show. Name a more iconic bromance, I’ll wait.
Such a pity that they had to compress two seasons worth of story into one and when they wanted to do more, their giant Rome set burned down (ironic though it is).
JD & Turk. Those guys can’t be beat for bromance. “It’s guy love between two guys”
I’ll never forget going to see the movie 300 in the theaters. Cuz I was a huge fan of the book
The HotGates of Fire so anything involved in the battle of Thermopylae I’m there for. But I knew nothing aboutStevenFrank Miller, and of course I knew nothing about Zack Snyder. And admittedly things were looking bad when they were all you know not wearing armor, but there was a second right when the battle started that gave me so much hope. Because for that one second you know they say push and they all push forward together like an actual phalanx battle for a second. I was so excited . Finally a movie showing actual Greek battle . And then of course the rest of the movie 300 happens.Now don’t get me wrong as the movie progressed I realized oh this is something else and I was silly to ever expect anything different. I was able to enjoy it for what it was. But I’ll never forget that crestfallen feeling for that one moment.
But I knew nothing about Stephen Miller
Do you mean Frank Miller, the writer and illustrator of the comics? Stephen Miller, the Nazi, would have been in college when the movie came out.
There might be more overlaps in that diagram than you would expect
Looks like Steven Pressfield and Frank Miller got blended together there
My favorite part of 300 was the dance battle.
Oh no! I can imagine your state and even share some of it with you.
However the situation itself is quite comedic, especially if one checks all other Snyder’s movies. You made my day :3
The Hot Gates by William Golding?
Oh you know what? I’m thinking of Gates of Fire by Steven Pressfield actually.
Thanks!
The Last Kingdom did such a good job showing how
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Mundane medieval warfare was since it really wasn’t often grand scaled. Post Roman Europe was mostly small skirmishes with occasionally large scale warfare, but it was few and far between until probably Charlemagne (citation needed. I am NOT a military history guy.)
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Brutal. There was no even match up. It was either a one sided slaughter or the battle didn’t happen.
Point two is important. When your force is so small that a single pitched battle is pretty much it for either side, you don’t really want to roll those dice unless you really like your odds
Contrary to what movies generally show, there’s a time after battle, and most of the time there were more than two factions at play in a given region.
If you go all-in on one battle, and both factions battle to the last man then (a) you won’t have anyone to do the next harvest and (b) you won’t have anyone who could defend against any random third party to swoop in and easily take both factions’ land.
Likewise, how “few” casualties there were in actual battle. Fiction shows both sides duking it out until they’re both effectively wiped out. In real life, if 10% of an army was dead or incapacitated, the battle was over. There would be a rout, a retreat, and depending on the details, another battle a few days or weeks later.
And if you were a knight of nobility you would surrender with the expectation to be ransomed.
Remember limited warfare? That was awesome.
Yeah turns out seeing your buddies get stabbed isn’t great for morale.
Very true!
A fighting retreat is an incredibly difficult maneuver to pull off, but if managed, it means that what could have been an utter massacre is reduced to simply damaging. A commander - and a military force - that knows when to fold 'em in that context of high-casualty retreats is worth their weight in gold.
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Sure, but that would be boring to watch
Hard disagree. It’s a matter of treating it differently.
How would you know? We’ve never had a chance to watch it.
