• 鳳凰院 凶真 (Hououin Kyouma)@sh.itjust.works
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    10 hours ago

    I mean… this is type of stuff is why I kinda sus if my parents are actually my real parents. (I actually posted a No Stupid Questions post about it) This kind of thing is very common in China where I was from, and the authorities don’t really like talking about the issue because it looks bad. (I think its partially fueled by the One Child Policy.)

    But then again, my current parents told me about it so it doesn’t exactly make sense to tell me about the kidnapping issue if they were not my real parents. (Or maybe its the ruse all along… idk thinking about it makes my head spin)

    • Isolde@lemmy.world
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      4 hours ago

      Maybe your parents don’t know either. They’re just covering all their bases. What if you were kidnapped from another family and switched with the baby they had, at a park or something- while no one was looking? Maybe your parents went through the whole changeling movie and just decided to put it to bed and accept the circumstances. This probably brings you no peace, but to be honest; it doesn’t matter too much if you did or didn’t, they’re still your parents for better or worse. (I look almost exactly like my mom, so I know I’m hers, but it’s not a warm thought if it makes you feel better)

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    1 day ago

    Yeah, I’m not surprised. I’d imagine an experience like being kidnapped would really change someone. Glad the little fella’s made it back to his family.

    -Ken M

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      The cops just found a guy who was on a trip repairing pianos with a kid that slightly looked like the one they were looking for. They arrested him and took the kid. Even when the mother came to town to attest that it was her kid, they gave her the run around and, since she was too poor to fight it in court, stole her kid. Those kids didn’t even look anything alike… People nowadays don’t seem too bright on average, but I think maybe people back then were extra stupid.

      • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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        Stealing poor children was common back then:

        Georgia Tann (1891-1950) was an American child trafficker who, through the Tennessee Children’s Home Society, operated an extensive black-market baby ring from the 1920s to 1950. Though her methods were criminal and involved kidnapping children from poor families to sell to wealthy ones, her practices inadvertently shaped key aspects of the modern adoption system.

        Sealed Records: Tann championed the practice of closed adoptions with sealed records to hide the children’s true origins and prevent birth parents or adoptive parents from challenging her sales. This became a standard practice in the U.S. for decades.

        Agency Adoptions: Before Tann, adoptions were rare, often arranged informally or through orphan trains. Tann professionalized the process through an agency model, which increased the rate of adoptions but also allowed her scheme to thrive due to a lack of oversight.

        Focus on the “Best” Home: She promoted the idea that children should be taken from low-income families and placed with what she called “people of the higher type,” which removed much of the social stigma previously associated with adoption in certain circles.

        The exposure of her crimes in 1950 led to widespread adoption reforms and stronger legal oversight in the United States to protect children and parents.

        She would literally drive her limo through poor neighborhoods, attracting the kids to her car, lure them into the car with bribes, then just drive off, and sell them to someone.

        While her crimes were discovered and investigated, she died of cancer before ever facing trial. It is estimated that she stole over 5000 children, of which at least 19 died of abuse or murder.

        Despite several states vowing to investigate the adoptions, no children were ever restored to their original families.

      • Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world
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        15 hours ago

        Did Bobby Dunbar’s parents not point out that he wasn’t their kid? Or were they just like, “Fuck it, close enough.”

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          6 hours ago

          I suspect that the parents either knew or suspected that Bobby drowned in the lake and had gone with the kidnapping story from the start, then had to double down when the police presented them with some kids.

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          7 hours ago

          The boy was 4, not like this was two infants being swapped. The parents had to know.

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      1 day ago

      It doesn’t even seem clear that the real Bobby Dunbar was kidnapped. He disappeared while on a fishing trip. An accident seems more likely than a kidnapping.

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    i’m suprised no one seems to have point-blank asked him who his parents were in court, or if they did why that wasn’t the beginning and end of the case

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      This was back in the era where ‘children should be seen and not heard’. So the kid and his opinions weren’t considered important, unfortunately.

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        23 hours ago

        What’s the old trope where a dog or cat comes running to its true owner? They could have set something like that up with the kid. That or the Solomon treatment.

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      20 hours ago

      Oh that’s still a phenomenon today. There’s a great Boondocks episode about it - s1e2 “The Trial of R. Kelly”. A famous musician (R. Kelly) gets charged for peeing on a 14-year old girl (in a kind of sexual way, i’d say). During court, a lot of arguments are made:

      • (prosecutor) A crime is a crime no matter who commits it
      • (prosecutor) She was clearly underage, there’s unambiguous video footage of the incident
      • (prosecutor) Where would we be if we allowed lawlessness to rule?
      • (defendant) R. Kelly is black and therefore racially persecuted
      • (defendant) Even the greeks did sexual acts with underage people, and didn’t they lay the foundation for our glorious nation?
      • (defendant) His music is cool and the people like him, so who cares

      In the end, people start playing music in the courtroom, people start dancing and R. Kelly is set free. It’s such a comically brilliant way to display the absurdity of life. It’s available for free here btw. Watch it, it’s worth it.

      During the whole trial, nobody thought of asking the victim whether she feels she was abused. At some point, she casually mentions she didn’t mind it and would voluntarily do it again. Her word wasn’t even considered during the whole trial.

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        12 hours ago

        Her word wasn’t even considered during the whole trial.

        Nor should it have been.

        There’s a reason some crimes are statutory, this is not at all even comparable to asking the child regarding factual information of the case.

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      4 hours ago

      TAL did a different episode along a similar line where two babies were accidentally switched around in the hospital nursery, so they were raised by the wrong families.