• lazynooblet@lazysoci.al
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    10 hours ago

    Your example includes the transfer of wealth in the story and yes I agree it’s likely the driving force behind the event.

    This OP doesn’t have the same pointy capitalist part. It is only being assumed so. I’m not oblivious to the type of community this is but the blind hatred of capitalism is just that. Blind.

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      3 hours ago

      Dawg at this point you’re just saying words.

      This OP doesn’t have the same pointy capitalist part.

      What does this even mean?

      Love to be accused of being blind by someone who speaks in vague cliches and can’t even make a coherent point

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        2 hours ago

        I wasn’t accusing you directly, and this is social media, not a white paper. The point being that it is easy to just paint “capitalist” on everything and argue how it is bad, however that is a lazy rhetoric and instead feels like just being cynical and fault-finding for the sake of it.

        Neither the meme itself or the article it is referring, mention financial gain as the motivator.

        I am cynical of capitalism as much as the other, but each story/article should be discussed in good faith with evidence to corroborate any accusation of cause. In this case, I don’t agree capitalism is the cause, and if you do, I’m open to discussion if its not in bad-faith.

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          50 minutes ago

          I wasn’t accusing you directly,

          No, you were just doing it indirectly

          The point being that it is easy to just paint “capitalist” on everything

          Everything that concerns the production, distribution and allocation of goods and services, yes. Because it’s the nature of capitalism that it must paint itself onto everything, commodity everything, continuously expand into new “markets”, no matter how depraved. Take it up with the economic system that causes this process, not the people pointing it out.

          Neither the meme itself or the article it is referring, mention financial gain as the motivator.

          Do you think this hypothetical corpse-breeding industry would somehow not be, you know, an industry? Do you think it would somehow be immune to the all-consuming profit motive that’s strangling every other part of life for most of the human race right now? Of course it would be commodified!

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            29 minutes ago

            Everything

            Everything? Like everything?

            How can anyone have a discussion if you blanket the world in a single argument.

            Edit: There are some questionable (more than that, but trying to be polite) surrogate practices in post-soviet countries such as Ukraine/Georgia.

            Where I’m from surrogate for financial gain is illegal, and where I’m currently living surrogacy is banned entirely.

            What should prevent something like this from occurring in the first place, is ethics, not capitalism. Sure, I agree that any large enterprise in a capitalist environment would be influenced by capitalist tendencies, but the same decisions could be made in a socialist world. That is what makes me say “its not capitalism”, as these decisions could be made for a variety of reasons and in this case it doesn’t look to be financially motivated. It may become financially motivated down the line, but you can’t blame the economic system at the time.