• SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Right, but they still aren’t ENCLOSED like the other ones.

    When a floppy goes in, you can’t touch it, and a dust cover comes down to… well prevent dust from coming in. You couldn’t see it, or touch it until you ejected it.

    They are wholefully different situations, unless you’re a pedant who can’t quite understand nuance can make a massive difference. Especially when debating something as INSIDE, like a mouth.

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      Oh, well if you meant ENCLOSED, you maybe should have said that originally.

      Also, no need to ask if I’m a pedant; we are multiple comments deep into a discussion about the form factors and designs for a specific type of hardware memory… it should be obvious that the entire discussion is pedantry.

      Speaking of pedantry: “wholefully” is not a word, presumably you mean “wholly”.

      more pedantry ensues

      Anyway: enclosed and inside are not the same thing.

      ‘Wholly enclosed in/by’ is a more specific subcategory of ‘inside’, with additional conditions.

      I can be completely inside a room, and the door to that room can be open, or closed, likewise with any common household item and a drawer or cabinet.

      I can stick my thumb inside someone’s mouth, yet my thumb is not wholly enclosed by someone’s mouth unless they bite down very, very hard.

      Its not that I don’t understand nuance, its that you’re bad at conveying said nuance with specificity, as you have to explain what you actually mean after having initially said something more vague… or just different.

      I was already more specific with my contextual definition of ‘inside’, as being ‘beyond the flush line’ of the port… because your initial definition of ‘not inside’ was ‘some of the thing is sticking out’…

      …which would be analagous to standing in a doorframe, with say most of my body in one room, but my arm reaching out into another room.

      Now you’ve decided that to be inside of something actually means to be inside, as well as enclosed by a door, despite earlier giving a different meaning.

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        Oh, well if you meant ENCLOSED, you maybe should have said that originally.

        Uhh… the original conversation topic was about that… I shouldn’t have to specify… if it needs to be specified, that means you missed the topic originally, so your aren’t being pedantic… you’re just a moron or you thought you could be smart by being pedantic, while Ignoring the entire topic title….

        Being pedantic only works if you are A correct, and B don’t miss the obvious.

        You did neither.

        Just because you assume something can close without a door doesn’t make it inside. Using your example, parking a trailer with it sticking out, would make it not inside the garage anymore, because inside implies COMPLETELY. So without lips, it’s not a mouth, and can’t be inside. If you understood this, my comment wouldn’t need to specify this… since this is obvious once you understand the nuance of something being actually inside. Like the CD and VHS’ from the topic……………… and I added floppies because they’re identical, I called out SDs…. Since they are different from those 3…… why? The door making them actually inside! Do you need this explained still……?

        You can’t be a pedant of you don’t actually understand the topic, you’re attempting to be smart, while being an idiot. The picture even specifies eating like a mouth! Does that not include enclosing inside with a door (lips).

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        Someone apparently doesn’t know what inside means….

        within the boundaries or confines.

        So if an arm is sticking out, it’s no longer by definition inside. It would be in it, but not inside of.

        You aren’t a very good pedant, not even an okay one.

        ALL SDs have a portion of their body sticking out so you can press it to release, or pull out. You’re incorrectly referring to these as completely inside. Which they aren’t, you missed e mark, and are doubling down on something you attributed the wrong definition too.

        No sd card goes completely inside, if it did, you would need a mechanical release to eject it. And at that point there would likely be a dust cover to protect the moving parts from dust.

        Something won’t ever go inside of something else without some sort of cover to protect said space. This applies to everything, so it’s hilarious a self described “pedant” missed this detail.