• PugJesus@piefed.socialOPM
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    21 hours ago

    Explanation: Khutulun, a descendant of Genghis Khan (the great-granddaughter of his heir, Ogedei Khan), was famed for her beauty and her athletic prowess. She swore not to marry any man unless he could defeat her in a wrestling match. No man ever did (though I believe she eventually married).

    Any man who challenged her and lost would forfeit 100 horses to her. She earned a herd of some 10,000 horses this way - a considerable amount of wealth even for a Mongol princess!

    … my inner sub is giving me very bad financial advice for my herds right now…

    She was also a skilled warrior, and favored by her father to become the next Khan, but he was eventually dissuaded from this by political maneuvering. Khutulun herself would become a prominent military commander under one of her brothers, who became Khan instead.

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    “This is the fifth time today that you got your butt kicked!”
    Yup. I’m not doing this for weird reasons…just like…regular reasons.

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    This story always seemed so outlandish to me, that I’m still convinced it isn’t actually the entire story. Like; the men were losing on purpose for some sort of political favor of sorts.

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      A hundred horses is a steep price even for a Mongol noble to lose for a nondescript favor - and the marriage of a Mongol princess is a high prize to be won.

      That she was a highly accomplished warrior as well suggests that her prowess was legitimate, considering that the enemy on the battlefield was unlikely to ‘play nice’.

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        No woman known for being beautiful is nearly as strong as a strong man. Wrestling is very much a skill, but there’s a reason there’s so many weight classes. I wrestled for several years. Strength can overcome skill.

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        That she was a highly accomplished warrior as well suggests that her prowess was legitimate, considering that the enemy on the battlefield was unlikely to ‘play nice’.

        Im sorry but the difference of raw strength makes this story bullshit. No way they didnt lose on purpose of they just lied about the outcome.

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          Right, and I’m sure that the men she captured on the battlefield were just really invested in proving the enemy royalty’s war prowess at the expense of their own reputation and, potentially, lives.

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              Sometimes she would quit her father’s side, and make a dash at the host of the enemy, and seize some man thereout, as deftly as a hawk pounces on a bird, and carry him to her father; and this she did many a time.

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          Yeah it’s gotta be fantastical. I know some women who are incredible athletes and could defeat 99% of men… but not 100%. There’s just a reality, and especially in strength sports like wrestling, and the Mongolian style at that, where size is the winning factor and men can just get much bigger than any woman and overwhelm them.