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jankforlife@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 days ago

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jankforlife@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 days ago
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    (Mass dislikes time!)

    Yes, the US does evil shit in the Middle East. Killing brown-skinned practitioners of the other Abrahamic religion overseas is an American tradition.

    That still doesn’t change the fact that China is persecuting Uyghurs in the Xinjiang province.

    You can’t shit-talk one authoritarian state and cheer on another.

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      That still doesn’t change the fact that China is persecuting Uyghurs in the Xinjiang province.

      But it’s not a fact though? You can’t imagine up some fictional scenario and then just claim it’s a fact; words have meanings

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      You can’t shit-talk one authoritarian state and cheer on another.

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        .ml simps so fucking hard for authoritarians in Russia and China?

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          To liberals, “simping so fucking hard” literally just means, "not believing literally every piece of propaganda that right wing western propaganda outlets pump out about them.

          If they were old enough to be paying attention in 2002, they would be accusing anyone who didn’t believe Iraq had WMDs of “simping so fucking hard” for Saddam.

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            You don’t believe there are WMD? What are you some authoritarian simping tankie?

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              🤣 Their jabs are so far off the mark, but every time they think they’ve hit the bullseye. If they could see our fremdschämen faces…

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        I thought I’d blocked ml already. Guess I need to do that again.

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          How self absorbed do you have to be to announce that?

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            Blocking ml is a frequent topic of discussion, as it’s widely considered to be propaganda unconnected to reality.

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              Widely considered unconnected to reality among people who believe that Ukraine is winning the war and there’s an invisible genocide in China. I wonder what Occam’s Razor says about this🤔

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        “Authoritarian state” is a bullshit category. Authoritarian states are just states insufficiently subservient to Washington. It’s no more or less coherent than “terrorist state,” which the US uses in the same way.

        “Authoritarianism” is the contemporary word for “totalitarianism,” which is just an erudite-seming term for horseshoe theory, which is horseshit. Previously:

        • ‘Horseshoe theory’ is nonsense – the far right and far left have little in common
        • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory#Academic_studies_and_criticism
        • Funny thing about Hannah Arendt’s construction of “totalitarianism”: She came from a bourgeois family and so was unsurprisingly anti-communist, and she was funded & promoted by the CIA.
          Imperialist Propaganda and the Ideology of the Western Left Intelligentsia: From Anticommunism and Identity Politics to Democratic Illusions and Fascism
          One of the centerpieces of the cultural cold war was the Congress for Cultural Freedom (CCF), which was revealed in 1966 to be a CIA front. Hugh Wilford, who has researched the topic extensively, described the CCF as nothing short of one of the largest patrons of art and culture in the history of the world. Established in 1950, it promoted on the international scene the work of collaborationist academics such as Raymond Aron and Hannah Arendt over and against their Marxian rivals, including the likes of Jean-Paul Sartre and Simone de Beauvoir.
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      If not reeducation, which method would you prefer China use to combat the foreign radical Wahhabism and terrorism spread by the CIA in Xinjiang for the purpose of regional destabilization and regime change?

      We all know how the US chose to implement its own war on terror. Muslim majority countries in the Middle East support China’s method.

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        Vocational training and extraordinary rendition & torture at a black site are exactly the same. You fool. You absolute baffoon.

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          Bro the CIA isn’t trying to regime change Ukraine, the people there are just legitimately fighting for their sovereignty!

          -You in 2014, just before the coup

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          Bro you haven’t engaged with any of the material we’ve presented in this conversation.

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          You forgot the /s

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      That still doesn’t change the fact that China is persecuting Uyghurs in the Xinjiang province.

      Previously:

      The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing Salafi terrorist into Xinjiang, and once its efforts failed, it made lemonade out of its lemon by concocting and promoting a genocide narrative.

      The only countries pushing this narrative are the “always the same map” imperial core countries, which just so happen to be largely the same ones supporting Israel’s genocide.

      Almost no predominantly-Muslim country buys the Uyghur genocide narrative, because they know it’s bullshit, because they talked to the Uyghurs themselves.
      https://twitter.com/un_hrc/status/1578003299827171330 #HRC51 | Draft resolution A/HRC/51/L.6 on holding a debate on the situation of human rights in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of #China, was REJECTED.

      • The Uyghur Human Rights Project is a product of the National Endowment for Democracy, which is the American government’s main regime change NGO.
      • A Reddit AMA Claiming To Be A Uyghur Quickly Exposes A CIA Asset Slandering China
      • The Xinjiang Genocide Allegations Are Unjustified
      • Uyghur genocide allegations
      • American Debunks All Major Western Propaganda on Uyghurs and Xinjiang
      • US-Funded Uyghur Activists Train as Soldiers of Empire
      • The blueprint of regime change operations How regime change happens in the 21st century with your consent
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        The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing Salafi terrorist into Xinjiang, and once its efforts failed, it made lemonade out of its lemon by concocting and promoting a genocide narrative.

        Much like how after China foiled their color revolution attempt in 1989, the CIA had to pivot to the “Tinyman Square Massacre” narrative.

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          Very much like that, and they’re still getting mileage out of it with no effort, because Lemmitors get an endorphin rush every time they do the CIA’s work for free, the brave defenders of freedom & democracy that they are 🤦‍♂️

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      this post isn’t cheering on china, it’s shitting on the west’s hypocrisy.

      also you might want to look up who funded the wahabis who groomed the terrorists that the crackdown is a response to.

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      Yeah

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      "Yes, the US does evil shit in the Middle East. Killing brown-skinned practitioners of the other Abrahamic religion overseas is an American tradition.

      That still doesn’t change the fact that Iraq is building weapons of mass destruction to attack the USA.

      You can’t shit-talk one authoritarian state and cheer on another."

      Seriously, how many times do you need to hear it before you western chauvanists realise it’s not about “good or bad”, it’s about trustworthy or untrustworthy.

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        Ironically Abrahamic religion’s influence feeds into liberalism’s good vs. evil worldview.

        Philosophy professor Hans-Georg Moeller: If Morality Exists Everything Is Permitted

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