I’ve been
hereimproving the whole timeFTFY
It’s probably been good enough for non-gamers for ages. There have been a number of attempts to make wine personable enough to run games for the average user. I think Valve finally nailed it.
Now we just need enough marketshare to break through the kernel game protection bullshit and for Adobe/Autodesk to get on board.
It’s a reference to Game Changer.
i need to go back and watch that
There’s nothing I do with my home computer that warrants that AI is integrated to the OS. I browse the web. Play games. Occasionally I work on some personal projects.
I can never see myself say ” Hey Cortana! I want to play Megabonk!”. I see much less reason for the OS to constantly record everything I do to do this.
Please don’t shove AI down my throat.
Man MS,…
-W8=> dude, we just want an OS that works
-Voice commands=> please don’t give hackers that kind of acces through our speakers
-Vista=> just fkn work already
-Onedrive all over the place=> nope
-365=> no thx
When will these assholes learn? If this is the straw that breaks multiple camels then good.
Windows users want a menu button in the lower left corner and shit to work after a short installer. How the fuck do you keep messing that up?
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Windows users want a menu button in the lower left corner and shit to work after a short installer. How the fuck do you keep messing that up?
Capitalists are literally Mt Krabbs:
“Squidward! New rule! All customers must fill in this survey about the details of their day before they order!” Drops a giant stack of papers on the counter
Squidward sighs “Why are we doing this?”
“Because then I can sell their information for more MONEY! Hyukukukukuk!”
Who can ever forget the “Remind me in 3 days” bullshit.
Every update it tries to dark pattern me into setting up a one drive backup to prepare to update to windows 11. Which my pc isn’t qualified for.
I’m still on W10 and this is what’s happening to me, my hardware is good enough, but I don’t want W11. It keeps forcing me to upgrade, it even downloaded the update without my consent and one day it just started installing, despite me telling it not to at every possible point. Something went very wrong with the update and after I rolled back to W10, my OS got corrupted and now I am moving to Linux Mint, as soon as I make sure nothing in my actual PC broke (event log says harddisk has bad blocks, but this only started happening after the forced update screwed things up).
How anyone at Microsoft thinks this is ok and a good way to treat a reliable user since W95, is just beyond me. But I am really excited to dip into the Linux world, finally!
Also UI that operates near instantaneously. Not waiting for the option I want to pop in.
Also not having online search results posted above the locally installed programs. If I search for “cmd” and hit Enter, I want it to open Command Prompt. I don’t want to do a fucking Edge search for “cmd”, or have it open some internet ad for something else named “cmd”.
So fucking irritating. Why does it prioritize web searches over local programs?!
Because fuck you! That’s why!
Working as intended by the shareholders.
-365=> no thx
Actually, being able to collaboratively work on the same document is a game changer. Not unique to 365 but a step up from sending PowerPoint files back and forth.
SharePoint predates 365. 365 is just saas.
So is 365 just the web browser hosting?
It’s the subscription model.
It really is a perfect storm against Windows/Microsoft:
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AI Sloppifying their everything
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Linux is now very easy to get into
TL;DR: Short Microsoft or no balls
It really isn’t for most people though.
You’re expecting that people will seek out alternatives. I expect the more likely reality. People will just stop using PCs completely outside of work.
It’s not a matter of how easy something is. It’s a matter of human perspective. Right now they think of PCs as being “Windows”. In much the same way some of our moms would say “I bought you a Nintendo game for your xbox!”
And instead of buying non-compliant software, she actually DID buy an XBox game. And called it Nintendo.
Same way down in the south you might overhear someone order a coke. To which the waitress asks “what kind?” And the reply is “Sprite”.
Kleenex/Tissues.
You get the idea. To them PCs are made by Windows and thats all they know. They just know they don’t like the AI they gwt forced to use at work. So instead of using it at home, or using an alternative, they figure they can just watch youtube on their phone.
YOU use a PC as a PC. Most other people use PCs as a browser to go to facebook, and youtube, and instagram. All the things that make you cringe, thats what a PC is to them.
So when you say “You can customize everything in linux!”, their response, from someone who used WindowsXP for 15 years and never once changed the wallpaper, will be “but why?”.
Hopefully that can help you see the difference between “it’s easy” and “it’s a thought that runs through their brain at all”
When it comes to whether people will switch I think sentiment is more towards diy PC gamers who are used to putting together and upgrading their systems and doing a fresh install.
When it comes to the general consumer i expect them to have the tech literacy of boomers when it comes to a PC.
This is actually a really good point: Having your target audience be people who don’t care is really unstable
Others will do whatever gamers do because only PC builders can build PCs.
Not all gamers can even do something as simple as installing Windows off a usb stick. The tech illiteracy of PC users can’t be overestimated. There’s PC users who buy high refesh rate monitors then use them at 60 hz. Anyone can buy a prebuilt.
yep. attention is all you need with the manufactured consent of the free marketplace. behavioralist by design!
you say that, but i’m telling you, every year linux getting more and more popular, if not stopped, will create a tipping point. It just takes a few more waves of youtube videos to get younger people into it, and young people grow into older people with strong opinions
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Huge numbers of Windows users are refusing to upgrade to Windows 11 – and many of them are citing its AI features as the reason why.
Spoiler: They’re not. They’re postponing. Eventually, they’ll almost all give in to the bullying :(
Spoiler: They’re not. They’re postponing. Eventually, they’ll almost all give in to the bullying :(
My primary laptop was Windows 10. Since Win11 was so different in interface, and sucked so much with MS AI+Onedrive force feeding, it was no different effort to switch to a different OS.
I went with a Mac M2 system with OSX as my secondary OS, and Asahi Linux as my primary dual booting. So far I’ve only been in OSX for the initial user account creation and launch of the Asahi installer, but OSX is there to boot back to if I run into something commercially proprietary that simply doesn’t run on Linux.
I’m a couple of weeks into this config so far and am quite enjoying Linux OS on Mac hardware.
Windows 10 IoT LTSC is supported until 2032. That’s a problem for future me…
Hopefully by then I’ve switched to an employer that allows me to run Xubuntu in the office. Right now my hands are tied.
Narrator: He didn’t switch employers and was forced to run Windows 11.
Not until the company goes public, or I’d forfeit my stock options. But I’m positive that’s gonna happen in the next 7 years…
Narrator: The company didn’t public as it was managed by George Bluth Sr.
Switching employers indeed seems to be the easiest solution to escape - I did it for that reason and do not regret it.
I’m holding a substantial stock option, which ties me down for the mid term, but once that is settled I’m out.
All my remaining W10 machines in the house are just in a holding pattern because I haven’t bothered to move them over to Linux yet. For me (and hopefully many others), its just lack of free time and procrastination. There is zero chance they’ll go to W11 for me personally.
Good luck with migrating over - my personal recommendation for advanced beginners: debian-based with XFCE (if you like lightweight desktop environments similar to Windows 2000)
Oh, I already have several Linux PCs/servers, I just haven’t migrated over kids’ PCs or the HTPCs yet and they keep getting the ever more desperate and annoying full screen BS about moving to W11, getting a MS account, using One Drive, etc.
Good that games run better on Linux nowadays, at least in general :)
Yeah, the kids only play Stardew Valley and other games that I know are 100% fine on Linux. I was mostly worried about school related things, but apparently they are all web-based tools now, so I think that will have no issues.
until some genius comes up with an “app” that is basically a browser wrapper ;) But I don’t want to jinx it.
I feel bad about the people who have no choice but to make a Microsoft account and then not being able to change the default browser app due to Family Safety™
Family safety, with your browsing data straightaway handed to the ICE Gestapo for deportations…
Yup, lots of people are going to take the extra year of Windows 10 updates Microsoft is offering and put off upgrading until next year, but so many writers want to find meaning in people not upgrading as soon as 10 was technically EOL.
it’s really the stereotypical frog in boiling water. Had they shifted from Win 7 to Win 12 directly, people would have pushed back much harder for all the bloat and slop…
True. The only reason my PC doesn’t run W11 is because I can’t be arsed to mess with the drive for that secure boot bollocks.
What’s the reasons not to try a Linux live boot though (Mint seems popular for first timers), and see if you like the look & feel? No need to install anything, but yes you need to disable secure boot possibly (temporarily to boot from USB)
Oh I’ve got a mini PC for Linux, and a Legion Go S for gaming, but I need my main one for work.
Much easier to use Windows than convince thousands of customers to swap and rewrite 20 years of code in something else.
Ah, work. Understood. I migrated my work tasks away from stuff needing windows to avoid that dependency :)
I did advocate for Linux at one point, but any issues quickly became my issues for recommending it, so I stopped.
I can see that happening… People somehow refuse to learn, yet at the same time they run to computer-savy family / friends whenever their windows breaks. I put a dead stop to Windows support for my parents ages ago - I told them “if you won’t let me teach you how to help yourself, then I can’t help you anymore”
Most of my family finally got Android tablets. Most of them never really needed a PC to start with. Email and browsing was about it.
Moved 5 home PCs from Win10 to either Mint or Bazzite this year. No complaints from the family; we’ll not be going back to M$.
Like apparently everyone else, I moved to Linux Mint and have been loving it! It really is easy to use, but I’ve also realized that my technical knowledge is at a point where I really don’t need it to be easy. Like, I’ve always considered myself kinda tech illiterate in comparison to the people I’m around (I’m a software engineer who specializes in JavaScript/React, but I’m around Rust devs and people who set up docker containers for fun) but apparently just being comfortable using the console is far above what the average user will do. I think there was an xkcd about this kind of phenomenon
This is the absolutely perfect way to describe what it’s like listening to Linux fans give advice to newcomers.
yess, that’s exactly the one I had in mind!
Eh. I installed Linux Mint this weekend because I was sick of Microsoft’s bullshit and I had to connect my PC to my router with an Ethernet cable to install a driver for my wifi adapter from the terminal. I am quite tech savvy and was very comfortable with this whole process and it took no time at all, but my wife who knows barely anything about computers would have probably given up the moment the Internet didn’t work when Mint installed. Most people use routers that they rent for too much money from their ISPs and don’t even know you can plug shit into the backs of those routers yourself. The moment the wifi doesn’t work on the new OS even though the password is right, it’s game over for their ability to troubleshoot it. That is why Linux won’t get normies on it anytime soon. After that my experience has been extremely smooth and I have been able to do anything I’ve wanted to do without touching the terminal (although I prefer terminal commands), but that initial hurdle is just way too much to expect from the average person who just wants to get on Netflix and Facebook asap.
I’m not a computer person at all and the most I did with my Windows laptop was gently prodding the drivers to fix themselves. I have experience with basic C++ and Javascript but thats back when I was in high school and I was never really good at it. I would love to move to Linux but honestly yeah the hurdle seems too big. The thought of rendering my laptop unusable for a few days and fucking it up even further to the point of no takesies backsies scares me.
But oh well, I need to save up for a new laptop first before worrying about these things lol
Por que no los dos? Dual boot until you’re comfortable, or as a fail safe for yourself.
Yeah, the average user doesn’t want to do scary console shit. Linux won’t replace windows until people don’t need to type console commands.
People don’t need to type console commands. They’re just the easiest way to tell someone how to do something in text.
Every computer on every operating system, will inevitably face an issue of some kind at some point. Something you need to troubleshoot.
And if 100% of the troubleshooting is to copy/paste commands into terminal? Yeah. It IS necessary to type things into terminal.
This isn’t a case of “Terminal is the easy way, but you can find help tutorials using the GUI.”
This is a case of every tutorial is “copy/paste these commands into your terminal, and if something goes wrong you better know what the errors are even saying”
So when a non techie sees “python error”, their reaction will be “THERE ARE SNAKES INSIDE MY PC??? THEY’RE CAUSING ERRORS!!!”
Some of my favourite ones from trying to learn this new system include:
invalid argument
Uh… I just typed in a magic incantation that takes up two lines on this text thing.
Which. Fucking. One!?
no such file or directory
The final three words above apply here too. I got this one because a file I downloaded that was supposed to do something had …insert long string of technobabble from SO that included the word shahbang, I swear! It took him over ten minutes to find whatever all the treknobabble he uttered meant and then half a second to fix.
So it’s not even fear that’s at issue. It’s blank incomprehension when the error message is about as useful as those dummy lights in '80s-era cars that just said “ENGINE”.
You’re about a decade or two out of date with your knowledge here.
Which is kinda sad. The console always feels like a more precise way to deal with a problem. So it’s like people are saying “Using a mouse is too scary, I’d rather use a WiiMote while wearing mittens”
It’s more than that, too. Even when there are GUI things (like the network manager in my system now) the GUIs are badly designed (because it turns out that UX design is an actual, learnable, technical field!), and, further, inconsistent from one piece to another so there’s little in the way of shared learning. When you learn one of these little GUI utilities you’ve learned … that one … GUI … utility.
At that point you might as well be typing stuff like
ls -laR ~/Documents | awk '{print $9}' | grep -v '^\.' | xargs -I{} file {} | grep -i 'ascii\|unicode\|utf' | cut -d: -f1 | xargs -I{} sh -c 'head -n 5 "{}" | nl -ba -s": " | sed "s/^/$(basename {}): /"' | less -N(Fake command line supplied by long-suffering SO who got a kick out of making something incredibly stupid.)
This is self-fulfilling bullshit. Everyone is saying that typing words is somehow scary, so everyone is scared of typing words.
Average user doesn’t really has more problems with console, either they care enough to google how to fix the problem, and do whatever Internet tells them, or they don’t and they ask for help and kick the problem down the chain. Will the solution involve typing words or clicking checkboxes is kind of irrelevant
I’m glad you’ve had a good go of it. I’ve been very unimpressed with Linux Mint. I expected it to be fiddly, I didn’t expect it to just…not work out of the box. Like freezing up on the initial screens as part of the welcome tour? Baked in features like linking up with Google drive just…not working? Losing sound in games when messaged on discord, the de facto standard for side by side gaming audio? And all of these issues reported multiple times in multiple forums, with like 8 different solutions proposed depending on who you asked, with a healthy amount of “well that’s not a problem, it must be your machine’s fault” when it’s happening to multiple people?
I fixed some of the issues after serious googling, and I’ll get it working fully eventually, but I could never in a million years recommend it to someone unless they shared my desire to go mostly open source with high privacy, or were very tech-savvy. I even thought it would be a scenario like, I play admin and get things set up, then can hand off a working computer to my wife or daughter. Not a chance for the wife, and we are going to really need to keep leaning into programming for the kiddo. Maybe she’ll be a tech whiz who likes fixing things, but if she needs something reliable for school some day it’ll be a Chromebook or (gross) a Mac.
It’s customizable as hell, it’s free and open-source, and it’s helping my computer skills, so I’ll keep going with it for sure. But if I didn’t love learning and problem solving and simultaneously have HUGE issues with privacy and Windows whole direction… I can’t imagine sticking with it.
Linux is written by doctors? It’s all in your head, mate!
I had the same impression with Mint and it was the one my distro research led me to believe I would be the happiest with. I think my first mistake was using current generation parts for my build so I couldn’t get the GPU drivers to load or the monitor settings to detect properly. After troubleshooting for several hours and totally breaking my system at least twice messing with xorg.conf, I updated the linux kernel and that finally fixed it. A week later I realized I was spending 2-3 hours of troubleshooting for every hour of gaming or basic use and I finally made the switch to Fedora 43 Workstation.
Now everything works like I needed it to and I have been installing what I want to use with no more hanging, crashing, or horrendous screen tearing since v-sync doesn’t seem to work very well on X11. My takeaway is that Mint is probably ideal for older hardware but it definitely was a chore to make it happy with an RX 9060 XT and newer stuff which isn’t supported by the default kernel. My use case was more gaming oriented so YMMV.
Yeah, thats Debian for you. Stable and reliable but to achieve that, perpetually late. For more recent hardware you want something Fedora or Arch based. Peronally I switched to Bazzite from Win. Wanted to see what the fuzz is about with immutable distros (and all the gaming stuff preinstalled was another Point). So far it has mostly been great. I just had to adjust to the immutable part. My tryst with Arch on my old hardware was less pleasant…
While the driver situation has become much better, it is always a good idea to check Linux compatibility of new hardware purchases to be on the safe side.
I just tried out the long term service branch option, which is fine for now.
Linux is a great option nowadays especially if you go for one of the more mainstream distros. Otherwise Windows 11 IoT LTSC is the best of a bad lot.
Why not Windows 10 IoT LTSC?
because it constantly forces more bullshit “upgrades” that take away more and more of your freedom and human rights.
I mean instead of Win 11 obviously… Also, an LTSC version in extended support is unlikely to “force more upgrades”.
I used windows 11 for too damn long before switching to Mint. I feel like I already damned myself.
Wash yourself in the soothing glow of Mint’s DE and be born again!
I still need to use it at work. Sadly.
Yeah, work machines really make avoiding Windows difficult/impossible. And the worst part is that IT’s group policy often prevents individual employees from disabling all of the super invasive telemetry and data sharing BS. So if you want to be able to use the same accounts across work and personal devices, (like using the same browser profile, so your settings and bookmarks automatically sync), then your personal stuff inevitably gets sent to Microsoft. They’ve deliberately built ecosystems where separating your work and personal life takes extra effort, and that is enough to trap plenty of people.
I asked them at work to disable most of the internet. I do talk to copilot when I am bored and ask it stupid or pointless questions. But Google search works (clicking on results are blocked) and i do Google meaningless shit. Google probably knows it is me even if I never used Google at home.
Work is one area I wouldn’t care what OS is used. Since I don’t consider anything there to be private and its not my hardware at the end of the day.
I’m not only refusing to downgrade to Windows 11, my home system got switched to Linux (with the support of my SO) despite me thinking Linux is probably the single least user-friendly system I’ve ever had the misfortune to use.
That’s how bad Windows 11 looks to me.
C’mon, man, is this anti-Linux propaganda in disguise? Many Linux distributions just work out of the box.
Unless you’re a very specific kind of user, most users will have absolutely no problem using Linux to browse the web, or install and use applications.
Yes. Linux is dirt simple. Which is why 2025 is the Year of the Linux Desktop. For about the 30th year running.
Linux “just works” if you view the computer before you as a toy or a game or an end unto itself. If you view it as a tool that is supposed to let you do your real work while staying out of the way, it falls down flat on its face.
For example, I have a nice Bluetooth speaker that worked flawlessly under Windows. Still works flawlessly with my phone. My SO, despite hours of reading things and trying things out while, toward the end letting out a never-ending stream of quiet profanity, could not get it to work reliably. He can get it working. And then it will just randomly cut out and he has to do it all over again (albeit not for hours anymore).
This is not the only such problem. We can’t get it to hibernate either. I have to leave my computer running all the time so I don’t lose my place with my work. When I was running Windows it was “press the power button and walk away” after about three minutes of changing some settings when I first got it.
This is a never-ending stream that a techno-nerd would probably have no problems dealing with on a daily basis, but I’m not that, and I don’t want to be. (My SO is, but he has his own work; I don’t want to treat him like my personal IT department. I’d rather just have my computer work without these little, never-ending irritations.)
But … it’s still better than Windows 11. It will be what I use until the HarmonyOS PCs stabilize and breaks free into the wider ecosystem, after which my next phone and computer both will be using HarmonyOS.
Yeah, this is a huge issue with Linux. It works out of the box, and usually in a much much better way than Windows. However, if you come across a small annoying issue, it can be either a breeze to fix with a simple command or a complete nightmare due to incompatibility issues.
I’m a professional software developer and IT technician, and have been for many years. And I still couldn’t get my grandma’s fucking printer to work on Ubuntu after 3 hours of debugging.
The good news is that the more people switch to Linux, use it, come across annoying issues and complain about them, the faster they get fixed and manufacturers develop their products with Linux in mind.
Well, “out of the box” I hit that Bluetooth speaker problem so I didn’t have it working flawlessly such. But that and the hibernation aside, a few of the problems I’m having are more “this is different; I have to learn”. Fortunately things I do most of my work in are programs I already use: Zen for the browser, LibreOffice for office suite, etc. so I’m only getting little bits of culture shock here and there.
I’m annoyed, however, that I have to plug my speakers into the computer by old-fashioned wires. They’re fugly and in the way of other things since the plugs are in the front of the computer, right above the USB port I stick my thumb dries, etc. into.
Bluetooth is one of those things that is a crapshoot in linux. A big part of that is because the bluetooth protocol itself is a giant train wreck. It requires a stupid level of integration into the OS to do basic stuff (It should have just been effectively what Wifi Direct is). It also doesn’t help that the linux audio stack is kinda fucked.
Sleep/hibernate is also somewhat of a crapshoot because it’s a very weird protocol.
For some linux hardware these things work pretty well, but for others it can be a nightmare to make work properly.
FTR, I’m currently using KDE plasma + pipewire and that works pretty well for me with my bluetooth devices. But I realize that’s probably also somewhat due to me having good hardware for linux in the first place.
Get a Bluetooth dongle by Tao Tronics, I usually find them on eBay. Short tiny stereo aux cable and boom…it’s not perfect but removed the speaker connection.
This is a bit of a self reinforcing problem. It’s not magic that makes hardware work on windows. It works better on windows because people put time into making it work on windows. They didn’t do the same for Linux because there’s fewer users there.
I’m sure you can imagine the scene that’s like
Eng: “I don’t know if it’ll work on Linux. I want some more time to test it”
Boss: “how many users we have on Linux?”
Eng: “a few hundred”
Boss: “yeah no, just ship it as is”
But the good news is as more people use Linux, that conversation changes.
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If you view it as a tool that is supposed to let you do your real work while staying out of the way, it falls down flat on its face.
What an overgeneralization. Many servers run on Linux. Many developers code on Linux.
But I understand your point.
I’m curious, which distro and DE did you pick?
This question is proof enough that Linux isn’t exactly a user friendly system. You need to be aware of many things you otherwise wouldn’t need to care about in other operating systems.
Personally I like this freedom, but many people prefer to get something that just works without worrying about differences between distros and DEs.
Most users wouldn’t know how to install Windows, or which edition to install. Does that make Windows not user friendly too?
Plenty of Linux flavors that just works available for the average PC.
If you ask 10 different Linux users which distro to install, you’ll get 10 different answers. I don’t think this freedom is a bad thing, but it can be quite overwhelming for the user.
New linux users: check out this [new hyped distro they currently use]
Long time linux users: just pick anything mainstream
The boring reality is that if the project’s been around for 10-20 years it will likely be around for another long while and have good community support.
With small projects, the two guys behind are busy fixing bugs, patching packages or writing the docs.
Nonsense, its the same like 3 distros get recommended every time. Mint, PopOS, and bazzite.
It’s not that hard. “What Linux distro should I use? For what uses, you say? Eh, browse the web, mostly. Mint? Ok, thanks!”
Does the existence of Windows server affect the usability of Windows pro?
Ofc not. So why apply the same logic that one distro (eg arch, nix, gentoo) detracts from the usability of others (eg ubuntu, fedora)?
Going by this logic, linux would never become user friendly as long as one advanced choice exist.
So this is why I asked, I want to contexualize the situation.
Saying that linux is not user friendly is a broad generalization. Some distros are and some will never be by design.
The choice of distro is a real hurdle for new users, I agree.
But this is a meta problem of the open ecosystem, not of any one software distribution’s.
From personal experience, it can be overwhelming even for a seasoned Linux user.
Knowing the difference of Debian, Fedora and Arch based distros. Should I go for Linux Mint, Bazzite or Endeavor? Should I go for a immutable system or not? What package manager is used? What’s a flatpak?
One real example I encountered was that I was trying to install Pop OS on my new PC. Turns out after some trial and error that Pop OS uses an old Linux kernel that doesn’t support my new AMD graphics card. I ended up installing Endeavor instead, despite my not so good experience with using Arch before. Luckily Endeavor has been a great experience so far.
With Windows there’s really only one choice for the typical home consumer.
That’s what an actual free market looks like. It’s not just a choice between Windows and Mac. It does require a little more research, but there is no end of forums and comment chains laying out the difference at many different levels of depth. It also doesn’t cost anything to be wrong a few times about which is best for you.
Windows Home, Windows Pro, Windows Pro for workstations, Windows Education, Windows Pro Education, Windows Enterprise, Windows Enterprise LTSC, Windows S mode, Windows IoT
And there are some other variations for different regions and support levels.
Do you know which one does what? Because I only vaguely do.
Windows isn’t a single thing either. It just comes preinstalled. Most people have never installed an OS, not windows nor linux.
All machines come with windows pre-installed, no one ever needs to worry about different flavours unless you work in IT and manage windows devices.
I haven’t had to worry about which windows to get since windows 98.
Fyi, I’m on Linux mint now.
All machines come with windows pre-installed
I was curious, so I checked the laptop offers in our local shop aggregator (arukereso.hu)
Operating system Number Windows 10 Home 8 Windows 11 Home 677 Windows 10 Pro 23 Windows 11 Pro 1661 Windows 11 S 21 Linux 74 macOS 141 Chrome OS 5 FreeDOS 506 Without OS 6792390 / 3795 = 62% windows
Isn’t that what I’m saying? Windows isn’t prevalent because there is one edition of it, but because it’s the default.
Apparently this is downvote worthy information?
Are you a home user? Choose the home edition. Easy.
“What do you mean home user? I’m a computer user.”
When I worked at an MSP I kept running into folks (both businesses and residential customers) using the cheapest PCs they could get and having to work around Home edition limitations. I’m blanking at this moment but there was one limitation that was consistently a righteous pain in the ass… I gotta look up the differences and see if one jogs my memory
Edit: aha! it was the freaking Microsoft account. Its required on Home edition but optional on Pro. A super common issue folks would run into was from Microsoft removing the Windows Mail app and replacing it with Outlook, but the in-place upgrade/replacement would gum up their signed in emails and Outlook would be stuck thinking it’s both signed in and not at the same time. Easiest solution is to simply sign out of all accounts at the device-level and sign back in, because Outlook just looks at and manages the accounts that are signed into at the device-level but you can’t do that on Home edition, so I’d have to spend even more time rooting around until Outlook finally decided that the account that it was failing to sign into wasn’t in fact fully signed in and pop an actual signin prompt
Aren’t all these versions just the same product with different features locked behind payment options? It’s very different from Linux, where every layer has multiple alternatives written by different authors that can behave very differently.
Mint. No idea what a DE is.
Then you are using the default DE (Desktop environment) for mint which is Cinnamon.
You probably don’t ever need to know but very simplified it’s the DE that makes mint look like it does, not mint itself.
DE (desktop environment) is all the visual interfaces (settings app, taskbars, start menu, widgets etc) and default applications you get. If you aren’t in the terminal, then it’s the DE that you are using to control your PC.
Ah. I have no idea then.
Probably Cinnamon if you’re using Mint
At first I read SO as “shared object” I am depressed now.
Same, just got a new framework 13 laptop, it’s not running Windows, sleep, fingerprint reader, Bluetooth, gpu drivers it all works. Linux now. All the games I currently play just work out of the box, steam just adds proton to the download. I don’t use Microsoft Office apps though, more than happy with the alternatives.
Finally converted the last computer in my house from Windows to Linux. My wife was the last holdout and she’s been loving her Linux machine.
I‘ve switched to Linux mint. 95% of my time I am using it instead of Windows and this is just because of that stupid kernel anti cheat software…
My Linux mint partition broke almost immediately :(
The windows boot loader has a tendency to erase the GRUB for booting Linux, borking it as soon as you load into windows. It’s probably because windows is still in dual boot.
Edit: specifically, IIRC, it was windows update that borked it, but it always would auto-update when I opened it, so if you can find a way to guarantee windows never updates, power to you.
So that explains my Zorin install disappearing several times. I just gave up and got a Mac.
Yeah, sorry, I learned that the hard way. I just eventually said fuck it, and now I run 'doze on a VM in my Linux mint.
Yeah I would assume so too but I can’t drop windows and if I can’t rely on dual booting to work it’s not worth messing with. I have a laptop with bazzite on it but that only gets so far.
Don’t dualboot with a partition and you’ll be fine. Give Linux it’s own drive and Windows stops messing with it.
I don’t have enough drive slots for that.
Dualboot might work better with ltsc iot version of windows, which even if you only use Windows you should be opting for anyways over the copilot and account requirement forcing consumer version of Windows that pushes out unstable new features people don’t want to try to boost their stock by showing increased use of AI.
I did that but it is still trying to give me updates constantly.
Breaking the preview pane in the final update for windows 10 was a nice touch.
I have had 3 more friends in the last 24 hours tell me they are now going to make the switch in the near future. This is in addition to 2 who already have. This makes a total of 8 people I know personally who have already or will be switching this year/early next year.
I do not know a tonne of people, it’s really pretty impressive.
