• WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    The US-Israel attacks on Iran are unprovoked and criminal — and carried out while Iran was negotiating against US-Israel demands that both coloniser powers knew were impossible. This mirrors Israel’s murder of Qatari bystanders while trying to assassinate Hamas’s ceasefire negotiating team — likewise assisted by the UK.

    Right now, the only new question I have is “why the Epstein coalition leads with underhanded tactics?”

    Just like fighting dirty in self defense situations: if you’re winning you don’t need them and if you’re losing you escalate the level of violence and upset the person on top of you. It’s the difference between a bloody nose and mangled fingers. So if you’re in a situation where the other person might have a (nuclear) weapon, they can’t trust your word, and they feel threatened then that weapon has a lot higher chance of being used.

    In a duel, if you threaten and pressure, pressure, pressure then they might crumble because you’re using good technique. If you start by plucking at their eyes and groin then you better pray they never get the upper hand even once.

  • Keld [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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    Iran will come back to the negotiation table i fear, because they keep trying to engage with the US like theyre an honest actor and the US keeps murdering their negotiators

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        If the way they asked Soleimani to the negotiation table then bombed him on the way there, or the way they tore up the nuclear deal and then bombed them, or their millions of lies have not convinced the Iranians that the US is not an honest actor, why would this?

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                I wouldn’t necessarily call it irrational - at its best, religion is a mechanism that allows humans to encompass and care for the vastness of humanity as if it were their own body.

                Rejecting nuclear proliferation is, considered for the whole of humanity and above mere matters of nations or one’s own life, here probably an incorrect choice and certainly idealist, I think, but* uh… Hm.

                *and here I realise I’m still calling it irrational

                • supafuzz [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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                  I mean Khamenei wasn’t wrong, nukes are evil

                  But you can be righteous and still get killed

                  The question is, is being righteous more important than being alive? And… yeah, sometimes it is. Is this one of the times? I don’t think it’s the call I would make, but I’m also not a true believing Muslim.

      • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        How can they now, lol? They’ve been devastated by nazi violence, they’d need to take another 30 years to rebuild their infrastructure and knowledge after Israel and US killed and destroyed everything. The time for nukes was in the early 2000s/2010s.

  • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    I don’t know why anyone would negotiate in good faith with amerikkka and their lapdogs, it’s been proven time and time again that they use negotiations cynically & will happily abandon any deal if they think it benefits them in the short term

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      This last round of negotiations was especially egregious, what with Isn’treal confirming that they were purely in bad faith and that the strikes were already planned weeks out.

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    Fool them a third time? Seeing Iran’s record of negotiating and then getting “surprise” attacked and getting their top people killed, they might just be that gullible… Never hire Iranian security if you need to protect your VIPs

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    Starmer wants them to “return to the table” but this time agree to everything with no negotiation. He’s hopeful for an unconditional surrender that’s not called that.