I’m completely speechless. This looks so terrible I thought it was a joke, but apparently Nvidia released these demos to impress people. DLSS 5 runs the entire game through an AI filter, making every character look like it’s running through an ultra realistic beauty filter.
The photo above is used as the promo image for the official blog post by the way. It completely ignores artistic intent and makes Grace’s face look “sexier” because apparently that’s what realism looks like now.
I wouldn’t be so baffled if this was some experimental setting they were testing, but they’re advertising this as the next gen DLSS. As in, this is their image of what the future of gaming should be. A massive F U to every artist in the industry. Well done, Nvidia.
Check out this fun little nugget from further down in the article:
Nvidia actually used two RTX 5090s for its demos: one plays the game, the other exclusively runs the DLSS 5 technology.
An entire second GPU just to run it.
I think you have a typo there: An entire second GPU just to ruin it.
Can hardly afford or find one, they expect us to buy two? Fuck them
Is there scarcity somewhere? Priced out completely, but they’re available.
That’s actually good news in my eyes, we definitely won’t see this hit the consumer market for years.
Context is important. The following sentence is:
The use of two GPUs is required right now as DLSS 5 still has a long way to go in terms of optimisation - both in terms of performance and its VRAM footprint. However, DLSS 5 is designed for use on a single GPU and that’s how it will ship later this year. Quite how scalable it is also remains to be seen, but in common with other DLSS technologies, Nvidia tells us that the computational cost scales with resolution.
Sure just double the vram and your AI can run, unfortunately you can’t afford that vram because billionaires are running AI.
It’s always funny to me when Nvidia releases new 8GB cards and new VRAM-heavy features as a reason to buy them.
8gig isn’t even enough for 4k right now. There’s a guy that took his 3070 up to 16gig and it really shows the cards are ram limited. And also it’s a serious pita to change vram without melting the card.
But still the idea of DLSS was to claw back performance lost to raytracing, right? This is the exact opposite of that, it costs performance to sloppify the game. I just pray it’s gonna be an optional feature in games and I can still use DLSS 4 instead.
2017: Buy 2x 1080 Ti for 1500 bucks, your build is GOATed, have fun spending half your time tinkering with your overclocks and fishing for the perfect SLI compatibility bits in Inspector
2026: This. It’s a shame
SLI is back!
That was my first thought too lol
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This is shifting away from performance for dlss.
Features that need 2x the GPUs makes the stock go up 2x
Back to the ol pysx GPU days. Except physx made the game cooler.
Great the new SLAI.
Good, so my hardware won’t support it. XD
as much as you and I both hate it and as shitty as it looks right now, i imagine that some sort of cloud hosted ai technology is the future of gaming
It sounds like indie games that will run on a potato and not require internet access will be the future of gaming. I’m completely done with aaa corposlop.
sounds like a good idea. it sounds like that’s what I like doing and that’s what I like playing and it sounds like it’s good but I don’t know man. you tell me that sounds good. I’m glad you predict the future
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They tried this shit with Stadia. What would be the difference now that we also have AI? There is no reason to stream a shitty AAA game from a shitty company when you can buy and play indie hits on your own hardware.
I know the capitalists really want game streaming to be the future but every gamer with some common sense will reject that idea.
Oh, what the AI fuck?! 😵😵😵
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Right, I figured it was for effect. Worked.
This painfully true
Makes perfect sense in context.
Nvidia is no longer a gaming company. They do not care about gamers. They are actively DRIVING AWAY gamers as fast as they can, because AI chips are more lucrative than dirty smelly tiny consumer products.
This is meant to show off real-time AI generation performance, which is massively marketable to AI companies. Not consumers. Nothing is about consumers.
oh i’m sure the “hire fans lol” gamer chuds will be over the moon about this
This looks so bad, like uncanny 3d porn bad.
Yup. You will soon pay premium for checks notes actual footage of people enjoying fucking?!
New Worms game looking hype though
Can’t believe DF is so positive about this, just looks horrible. I’ve actually been quite positive about technologies like DLSS and FSR but this… no thanks.
Crazy to me to see people just now waking up to just how underinformed Digital Foundry really is to technical details, and how much they sold out.
Well, helps that you don’t need to know how to turn a computer on to see that they’re glazing some complete bullshit, just eyes.
They absolutely got a huge nvidia check for this one
The amount of glazing they do, holy fuck. They had me too for a minute before I started wondering if this is just an april fools joke
First time you’re witnessing nvidia coverage?
DF always glazes the industry. UE5, DLSS…
Eh, DLSS maybe, but they’ve been quite critical of UE5, especially its stutter issues. On the contrary, they’re always happy when something isn’t UE5.
My issue with UE5 is that it runs like shit, which DF tends to agree with, but it also looks like trash. Temporal effect are all over the place and make the image look like a muddy, ghosting mess. It only ever looks good on static screenshots
Idk why, but this reminded me of the South Park episode where everyone is using photoshop to show off their girlfriends.
Had to make the meme
The demos run on the back of two 5090 GPUs… At what point do we even acknowledge I shouldnt need to be using nearly 2kW of power on a gaming PC on a dedicated circuit in my home? Simply diminishing returns at a certain point and nvidia is bringing us way past that point into very unreasonable territory.
Is it cool they could do it at all?.. I GUESS?! But they’ve definitely lost the plot here.
You don’t recall crossfire/sli?
I am pretty sure that one 5090 draws more power than any crossfire or sli setup back then.
1080 TI SLI would be very close
They say the goal is to be able to run it on one GPU.
I like how it looks except for most of the faces.
Remember those double gpu cards?
DLSS 6: You don’t even need to design your game. AI will generate it in real time.🤡
I just watched the Digital Foundry video on this and the way they fuckin glaze over this tech just disgusted me enough to unsubscribe.
Can’t say I ever really trusted any Digital Foundry takes. They all seem to naval glaze over shiny things.
Digital Foundry has sold off for years now. They glaze over everything NV regardless of the quality. What killed it for me was in a now
editedrestored video reviewing Dying Light 2, in a mausoleaum, Alex Bataglia was glazing over an RTX image that was obviously black crushed and saying RTX was adding immense detail when the exact opposite was shown. That’s when I realized they were surely being paid to portray that version of events.Evidence of said bugs on release.
I love it, they restores the original video from 3-2-2022, likely because they think We’d forget! That’s an absolute smoking gun of reading the marketing materials vs what’s in fact in front of you… Check at 5:20 hahahaha this is amazing. If you go to the same location on present day DL2 you can clearly see the scene presented by Alex was bugged to the wazoo!
Invidious link because fuck google!
Was able to brace myself enough to skim through the video. Anyone that watches those clips and thinks that looks better has no place working on anything related to visual tech. Not only is the interpolation obvious and distracting, every scene, no matter the time of day, location, or anything else, has the exact same shitty lighting that washes out every shadow and color painstakingly added to the scene by actual professionals. Pro-tip: A white-balanced image is the starting point, not the end-goal. Making every game look exactly the same is fucking terrible, you hacks.
I can only hope this shit only finds its way into the AAAA dross that’s not worth playing already.
it’s incredible that this can be done in real time on a consumer GPU.
this is also stupid and completely useless
Hmmm I also just thought of how this is it looking the “best” for the demo and that most of the time it will just be the makeup gun set to “whore”
I looked at some of the demo images and if it reads old lady, it decides to quintuple the wrinkles and go full witch. But otherwise, yeah, whore gun.
I thought the super glossy look of the unreal 5 demo was off putting and things could not look worse, but here we are. Just hyper stupid everything. Older —> Hag of the ages, Woman ----> Whore makeup, and then what else? Will the men look like the chad meme? will younger characters all be wearing shadow and mascara? Will everything get massive tits? (OK that one might sell).
Its like everything is now passed through a Instagram filter, but somehow even more vapid.
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Oh dear you where not kidding:
It is actually even worse, if you look at the lighting direction in the original granny picture, the seemingly only light source is the spark of the magic wand. To me this creates a sense of mystery, caution and tension, and it highlights that magic is the only tool to light the darkness.
Then in the sloppified version, they just blast the scene in lighting from the right for no reason. Their ai bot even subdues the light of the wand, making it look like a cheap prop. I also get the feeling that they change her gaze from looking at something to looking directly at the camera. So while the 2x5090 GPU slop might technically highlight more details, the entire artistic feeling just ends up with a grandma looking in a makeup mirror.
Oh yeah, this is going to create some really weird effects if done on everything. These are the “best” examples as well, so lighting no longer being directional is a best case scenario. I just don’t get why though, who wants this?
In the same Hogwarts trailer, the highschool kid looks 30+ so, yeah…
The giving every person a light source directly in their faces was a choice. Its like everyone is streaming with a “halo” light.
I’m sure there will be cases it does have that effect, but that isn’t a hag on the right, that’s just an old person with wrinkles. If it was making them up, I’d agree with your hagification claim, but every single wrinkle was present beforehand. It just genuinely looks like a better version, whereas the one on the left looks like a lower res version of the same render.
It’s probably going to look horrible in gameplay though, the uncanny valley effect of motion is ridiculous.
I think, why people perceive that right image as older is because the wrinkles carve much deeper. Yeah, same number of wrinkles, but it looks like they got chiseled down by 20 additional years…
It looks like what wrinkles do if someone is covered in soot and then wipes their face. The definition of the wrinkles is insane.
I think the algorithm just realized that it involved someone old because it draws a lot of other characters without this excessive filter. Out of curiosity, I looked the character up, and she’s supposed to be old and even haggish as the professor of defense against the dark arts: https://www.thehergula.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/Dinah-Hecat.jpg The wiki even describes her as having been aged excessively by being “injured by time itself”. Honestly, DLSS 5 did an apt rendition at least for this character.
I mean, yeah, but you’re kind of saying what the others here were saying, too, in that when something fits the anywhere close to the “old hag” category, that the probabilities will shove it entirely towards “old hag”.
That it’s somewhat fitting for this character, I would expect to be coincidence. Like, maybe they did actually give the image generator somewhat of a system prompt for this demo, that it should make her look extra wrinkly.
But yeah, shoving all depictions of women either towards young model or old hag is quite emblematic of these image generators, so personally, I don’t think, it was even necessary…True, but this is what this filter is actually doing: https://streamable.com/j0ryqe
It can manipulate lighting and material, but it has to be in the source material, if that makes sense.
