I just don’t get people who say X-Men wasn’t “woke” until recently. It never even tried very hard to hide the metaphors…

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    I require an example of someone stating that x-men isn’t woke. I don’t believe anyone could avoid understanding that.

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      I saw a video of MAGA Republicans playing “Killing in the Name of” by RATM at an event while draped in the American flag.

      Never underestimate the media illiteracy of conservatives. They kinda have to be media illiterate to be conservatives.

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        Ronald Reagan said he was a big fan of “Born In The USA.” They don’t have to listen to the lyrics to know what they like.

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        I can see people bopping along to music and ignoring the non-chorus lyrics but x-men, the half century old segregation allegory with enough content to occupy a small library… that is a hard sell. It feels insincere.

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          They like the version of the '60s civil rights movement they constructed in their head. Their conception of old X-Men can fit into that.

          Notice that conservatives complaining about “wokeness” always point to superficial attributes. A woman protagonist in a superhero movie, a half second lesbian kiss, or a black actor for a traditionally white character. They don’t point to media that has even slightly deeper ties to leftist thought, such as Andor or The Expanse. If they do at all, it’ll be for only those superficial attributes. They don’t even recognize it for what it is.

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      There’s been a lot of… discourse… around the fact that, in the new Disney+ X-Men cartoon, Morph is going to be portrayed as nonbinary.

      You can see a bunch of chuds raging about it if you go to YouTube and search for X-Men Woke

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        Mystique / Raven already transgendered into a bunch of dudes and back into a lady, in the X-Men movies years ago

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          Yeah, of course, which is why this is all so baffling. Or would be, if anyone still expected the Culture Warriors™ to have a single clue what they’re talking about.

          Also, in the comics, Mystique has been in a lesbian relationship with Destiny since the 80s, and Chris Claremont even planned at one point to have it revealed that Mystique had shapeshifted into a man and fathered Nightcrawler, with Destiny being his mom. That got nixed by the higher ups, but IIRC, the comics actually went back to that idea and made it canon recently.

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          She also has a wife but that might only be established since krakoa. I haven’t read the classics as I wouldn’t know where to start.

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            She and Destiny were definitely an item as far back as I was reading (late 80s). I don’t think they had officially tied the knot though.

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              From what I’ve heard, Mystique is now canonically Sherlock Holmes and met destiny in the late 1800s when she was being a detective in London.

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                I saw that was a thing now, that Mystique and Destiny are now canonically Sherlock Holmes and Irene Adler, respectively. That’s the kind of awesome weird shit that makes me want to get back into comics.