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    10 months ago

    Finally. Now my thousands of tabs will be hidden behind hundreds of tabs groups!

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        10 months ago

        This is the part I absolutely don’t get about this. Plus windows create a better visual boundary for the context-switch tab groups are supposed to be as you minimize one and restore another.

        Why not just use windows? 🤷 I sure hope they keep the implementation of this simple and end up just doing that for the user. Create new tab group -> color-coded new window opens up, gently nudging the user towards how simple the solution to their problem actually is.

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          10 months ago

          Tab groups in chrome are something I dearly miss from chrome. It’s super convenient for grouping projects and quickly switching between them. Multiple windows is a worse experience: there’s no preview favicon or anything to indicate what a window is actually for until you hover over it. With a tab I can see at a glance what something is before I switch.

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      10 months ago

      I really don’t understand people who don’t close tabs. I start with a fresh browser window multiple times per day.

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        10 months ago

        We start with a fresh browser window multiple times per day too. Except we also have multiple other windows of tabs minimized already.

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          10 months ago

          This reminds me that I once “accidentally” closed about half of those windows - each ~200 tabs - of my then GF. Took her over a month to notice. Tells you all about how useful tab hoarding actually is.

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        10 months ago

        You might still need those tabs though. You probably don’t, but you might.

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          10 months ago

          You’re right, I don’t. And since browsers come with this really neat feature called “history”, it’s not like I couldn’t trivially re-open them again as needed.

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            10 months ago

            It’s far easier to have your history cluttered than you might think, and then finding the sites that you need or might need becomes harder.

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            10 months ago

            Yeah but you might forget that you need those tabs. Maaaybe they weren’t that important then, but maybe they are.

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              10 months ago

              I think that “weren’t that important” indeed hints at how I keep/toss stuff IRL, too.

              I toss a lot of shit. I don’t keep stuff around for that one hypothetical use case that might crop up in 5 years. Most stuff sells surprisingly well second-hand, and this frees up a lot of money I had otherwise lying around doing fuck all for me.

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        10 months ago

        I don’t have enough time in the day or week or month or year to do everything I want to, so I keep my tabs open until I chip away at them one at a time. It takes a long time, but it doesn’t mean that the tabs aren’t useful to me and won’t remain useful months later.

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          10 months ago

          That’s me with YouTube videos, sometimes I would see a video on recommended that interests me but don’t have time to watch it immediately, I have to open it on a new tab otherwise I would never find it again. Sometimes it takes me days to find the time to watch it.

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            10 months ago

            You can add interested videos to playlist “Watch later” and it will available on all devices with your account

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              I don’t log in to YT to watch any videos, I alao use Newpipe and Stube sans account. Grouping them in Tabs to get to is great for me.

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          10 months ago

          Why not just bookmark the tabs? Put them in a folder in your bookmark bar called “To Do” or something and they’d all be right there.

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        10 months ago

        A handy to when it comes to closing tabs: mouse wheel down anywhere on the tab label closed the tab, no need to find the little ‘x’.

        Related: mouse wheel down on a link opens that link in a new tab.

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        10 months ago

        I have one tab per email account. A few for github issues I’m waiting to be fixed. One which is some random search I just use as reminder. None of which I have closed in months. I literally have a script to boot them up on my second monitor everytime I boot my pc.

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    10 months ago

    Firefox had tab grouping first. Before Chrome. And then it broke support for it when they did the add-ons overhaul. I’m surprised bringing it back wasn’t a high priority…

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      10 months ago

      IIRC the old tab groups feature was eventually removed because telemetry showed that only very few people used it…

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        10 months ago

        That’s because us power users know to turn the telemetry off and also have it blocked on our network.

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          10 months ago

          Right, but then you shouldn’t be shocked to find out that a feature was removed because nobody seemed to be using it.

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            10 months ago

            No, I expect Mozilla to know their market and use other means (like focus groups or surveys or something) to figure out which features are actually popular, instead of lazily using a bad metric.

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              Mozilla knows their market. Because of said telemetry.

              How do you think that works? For any other app?

              Hint:

              (like focus groups or surveys or something)

              Not like this. Because they have both shown to be absolutely terrible for this general market preference research.

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                Did you miss the part of the conversation where folks were pointing out that lots of users turn the telemetry off?

                Your reply is as tone-deaf and non-responsive as sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling “nuh uh!” like a toddler.

                If you want to be persuasive you’ve got to prove that the telemetry is somehow useful in spite of many users turning it off, and you’ve done absolutely fuck-all to argue that.

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                  10 months ago

                  You are committing the same mistake as you accuse me of:

                  many users turning it off

                  [citation needed] [how many?]

                  For all you know, maybe the 15 very vocal users in here are the only ones who turn it off. Or do we know that many users do it? How many? 5%? 50%? 95%?

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        10 months ago

        Watching people use Chrome, fucking nobody uses it there either, except for work situations where on FF, you’re supposed to be using Multi-Account containers anyways.

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        10 months ago

        It didn’t help that they hid the button in the customize menu and made the feature not discoverable.

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    10 months ago

    I hope Firefox implements a great and robust tab grouping feature. Because they used to have one that worked beautifully.

    Firefox used to have Panorama view, which was a way to group tabs with a nice visual interface. …and they removed it because not enough people were using it.

    …Well if you stopped removing useful and perfectly functional features, maybe you wouldn’t need to rebuild them later when it turns out people do want that feature, huh, Mozilla?

    There’s an extension that reimplements Panorama and it kinda sorta works like it used to.

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    10 months ago

    Thank Christ.

    Can they also be synced container tabs Mozilla? As in synced across devices. I know there’s a container tabs add on you can get, but it doesn’t sync from my laptop to my desktop to my phone. Would be awesome if they did so natively.

    While you’re at it, could you add tree style tabs natively in Firefox? Pretty please, with cream on top.

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    10 months ago

    See for yourself, it has almost 3,000 votes now. 👇

    lol… some features requests on Android have many more votes and are being ignored by Google… like ad-hoc Wi-Fi

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        10 months ago

        I just use power tabs. gives me vertical, grouping, search, sorting, and some rules behaviour you can do but I don’t use that last part.

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      10 months ago

      There are Extensions to do that if you want.

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        They require a lot of tinkering for a half-arsed result. Built in vertical tabs like in Vivaldi or edge work and feel much better with just a single setting.

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          10 months ago

          There’s a fork of Firefox which have this feature in built known as Floorp which I personally use.

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    10 months ago

    I’m glad they decided to bring back this feature. Really missed having it.

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      This was such an old feature/idea. Cool to see old idea getting new life.

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    10 months ago

    Nice! This is the one thing in other browsers that I wish I had in Firefox.

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    I recently started using simple tab groups and like it. I just wish there was a way to keep my tabs in groups sync’d across devices. So if I open or close a tab in a group on my desktop, when I go to my laptop that group would be updated with the changes. It doesn’t seem to work that way currently, at least when I tested it out.

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    10 months ago

    This is exciting - after the demise of Panorama I used Quicksavers Tab Groups plugin, then when that died I moved to Simple Tab Groups, which to me is a good enough clone of Panorama. But something more modern would be super nice.

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    10 months ago

    I’ve been using Ungoogled Chromium at work just for the tab grouping. I’ll gladly use Firefox 100% if this is as good.

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    10 months ago

    This is something I’ve wanted on Firefox for a while. Glad to see it’s finally happening!