• steakmeoutt@sh.itjust.works
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      8 months ago

      People who feed you are doing grunt work? People who take your garbage away too? You gave just dismissed two groups of people whose jobs are vital to your wellbeing.

      The problem with your thinking is it’s actually not thinking at all.

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        8 months ago

        to be fair it is grunt work compared to your average office job.

        doesnt make them any less deserving at all of a fair living though.

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          Office jobs are the easiest jobs I’ve ever had. The more I make, the less work I actually have to do.

          Weird how the heirarchy works.

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            i resent this a lot, some of my superiors earned way way more but knew less of how things worked and did a lot less work, so infuriating.

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        Yes. People who do jobs that take minimal training and who could be replaced in a week are doing grunt work. That’s the difference between skilled and unskilled. Do you need to go through years of training to do your job? Congratulations, you’re not as replaceable as the guy who was trained in 2 days by a high school dropout.

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          Cool. So if everyone Learns To Code because that’s the only way to deserve an actual living, who does the essential but unskilled jobs then? Oh I get it, you’re advocating for labour immigration. Cool.

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            8 months ago

            Supply and demand. The supply reduced so wages went up but only as much as demand required. If you want more money be more valuable.

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              8 months ago

              Well, we could skip the labor shortage until wages increase by increasing wages right away.

              We simply don’t have a perfect market, which would be required for supply and demand to regulate without hiccups.

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              So you want labour shortages (and/or strikes because that’s the other way to effect a supply shortage) for a while to hurt the economy before The Market finds a way to pay the people it wants to consume their way to infinite growth

              What a weirdly planned economy

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            8 months ago

            It’s shrodingers labor! All arguments exist until you need one and then the argument becomes what you need most in that moment!