Lore changes shit me, but it’s pretty fun and is goofy when it needs to without sacrificing the dark things. It ain’t perfect but like the live action one piece its better than it has any right to be given the source material is unfilmable.
I feel like lore… loyalty? Is an annoying feature of fans reacting to adaptations (or indeed, changes to “canon”). Like, some changes are bad, and bad things are more noticeable if the source material had something better, but people like to play in stories. Settings are very fluid and just provide a framework for creating your own stuff
Yeah, I’m not a hardcore lore purist and i love a bit of multiple choice history like Elder Scrolls or Mad Max.
But some things do shift “the vibe” a bit, and this is clearly the Bethseda, not the Obsidian or Black Isle versions of Fallout in tone. And some things feel like petty hits on the non Bethesda games to regain narrative dominance
40k has it really bad, fans want to know what horus had for breakfast every day and what really happened, instead of being a muddy setting for telling your own stories and playing wargames in.
Agreeing with you, just want a place to dump my thoughts :)
Others have mentioned it and filled out the reasoning more, but basically Bethesda has a very “marketable” idea of what Fallout is, and everything they do or allow to be done with the IP they paid for, is in the service of furthering that.
All lore is fanfiction, new IP holders want to make money so they’re going to cut and emphasize where they want, regardless of the previously existing lore. In Bethesda’s case you can look at what Fallout 3, 4, 76, and the show have in common, and what it doesn’t have in common with NV, 1, and even 2 though to a lesser extent.
Tbf the only Lore thing that was iffy about the show was the location of Shady Sands possibly being moved to LA when it was originally in like Eastern California by Inyo National Forest
Everything else was vague enough to have wiggle room, could have alternate explanations or have good reasons why they are the way they are.
Like the NCR more than likely is consolidated now past LA, not completely gone.
it’s very funny how tim cain, the guy who literally created fallout, is like “hey the show is good and nails the tone and humor, canon doesn’t matter all too much” meanwhile NMA-esque lorecels are melting down about how it’s an affront to everything fallout is supposed to be
Tim Cain subscribes to the same ethos as myself and some others here, it’s all fanfiction regardless of who owns the IP. Canon is meaningless, Diagetic Essentialism is a dead end.
Lore changes shit me, but it’s pretty fun and is goofy when it needs to without sacrificing the dark things. It ain’t perfect but like the live action one piece its better than it has any right to be given the source material is unfilmable.
I feel like lore… loyalty? Is an annoying feature of fans reacting to adaptations (or indeed, changes to “canon”). Like, some changes are bad, and bad things are more noticeable if the source material had something better, but people like to play in stories. Settings are very fluid and just provide a framework for creating your own stuff
Yeah, I’m not a hardcore lore purist and i love a bit of multiple choice history like Elder Scrolls or Mad Max.
But some things do shift “the vibe” a bit, and this is clearly the Bethseda, not the Obsidian or Black Isle versions of Fallout in tone. And some things feel like petty hits on the non Bethesda games to regain narrative dominance
40k has it really bad, fans want to know what horus had for breakfast every day and what really happened, instead of being a muddy setting for telling your own stories and playing wargames in.
Agreeing with you, just want a place to dump my thoughts :)
Others have mentioned it and filled out the reasoning more, but basically Bethesda has a very “marketable” idea of what Fallout is, and everything they do or allow to be done with the IP they paid for, is in the service of furthering that.
All lore is fanfiction, new IP holders want to make money so they’re going to cut and emphasize where they want, regardless of the previously existing lore. In Bethesda’s case you can look at what Fallout 3, 4, 76, and the show have in common, and what it doesn’t have in common with NV, 1, and even 2 though to a lesser extent.
Tbf the only Lore thing that was iffy about the show was the location of Shady Sands possibly being moved to LA when it was originally in like Eastern California by Inyo National Forest
Everything else was vague enough to have wiggle room, could have alternate explanations or have good reasons why they are the way they are.
Like the NCR more than likely is consolidated now past LA, not completely gone.
it’s very funny how tim cain, the guy who literally created fallout, is like “hey the show is good and nails the tone and humor, canon doesn’t matter all too much” meanwhile NMA-esque lorecels are melting down about how it’s an affront to everything fallout is supposed to be
Fans want… something, idk, but it comes up in so many fandoms
Tim Cain subscribes to the same ethos as myself and some others here, it’s all fanfiction regardless of who owns the IP. Canon is meaningless, Diagetic Essentialism is a dead end.
yep, this is going in my C0DA
I thought the lore changed too but I looked up some dates and I’m pretty sure nothing actually changed.