people posting here are going out of their way to post – and it feels like every thought has more weight or sanctity or meaning when it’s being posted here, at the dawn of a new era and the fall of an old.
i’m spending more time actually reading and engaging with every comment, parsing the details and thinking about it, conceptually. versus just looking at garbage all day, garbage with a little bit of fentanyl in to keep you hooked
“this”
but really, I wonder how much of what we’re feeling is the absence of repost bots, and serial karma farmers.
It’s also the sheer volume of comments on Reddit. There are far fewer people commenting here, so each individual comment stands out more.
Exactly, I can actually read every comment in a thread and not get bogged down reading 300 comments on the same thing
I remember the old days of reddit and slashdot et al. A typical post would have a few dozen or maybe one or two hundred replies. A huge post would have like five or eight hundred replies. A thousand was insane.
These days, 10,000+ is not uncommon. The biggest threads have had tens of thousands of replies. It’s insane, the inflation.
I was going to say. For now.
But that said, I think the ability to curate community experiences is fundamentally shifted for better or worse by federation. Users, mods, and admins aren’t locked in any more.
I do think bots are a major culprit. If you look closely, they account for a remarkable amount of the “content”.
Actually, how does karma or reputation work on lemmy or kbin?
It will never show an consistent number. The way Activitypub operates is “you see what you’re subscribed to”, and that occurs in a technical/political sense of “these instances have agreed to federate”, and in many cases they don’t federate everything that happens. So if someone on instance A upvotes something posted on instance B, but instance C is not subscribed to instance A, A and B will see the upvote, C won’t.
You don’t have to give up on your clout-chasing dreams, but the numbers won’t tell the whole story.
I’m also curious about this. I have several posts that are upvoted but one that’s downvoted and my reputation is negative from that one post :/
Also curious, going to this discussion on lemmy doesn’t show kbin replies…
It currently counts the boosts as upvotes instead of the upvote button itself, but the downvote button does count as downvotes which is why that is. I don’t remember the exact cause of this at the moment but I’m sure it’s only temporary.
I’m assuming the boosts are for activitypub compatibility with Mastodon?
On Reddit I was not above petty arguments and down voting. Here I feel like things are more personal and I would rather discuss than simply consider the other person to not be worth engaging with. It’s been very long since I’ve felt this way online. Hopefully lemmy does not outgrow this.
To be honest, I remember Reddit having a similar feel back in the day before it grew so massive. But this is still nice.
I am definitely more willing to participate in the community and comments when I know someone may actually see what I say
Yeah, this is why the vast majority of my Reddit interactions are deep in a thread. Some of the comments I’m most proud of have like 40 upvotes, compared to some of my most popular, which have thousands; at that scale though, the 40 feels more meaningful because it’s 40 people who have said they like the thing you wrote
This is exactly how reddit felt in 2008 when I joined. The more things change, the more they stay the same. You can’t get in the same river twice. This too shall pass. Etc etc
I feel the same way! I used to only lurk on reddit, I had an account for years and only made a couple of comments. On here I’m commenting and engaging more because I want to do my part to make the community grow. I really want to see this succeed because as a dev myself, seeing what reddit did to third party devs, to the dev of Apollo, I refuse to support that in any way, not with my data or with my time. I might make an attempt to piece together lemmy android app or see about contributing to Jerboa soon before my fall semester of school begins. I truly wish for this platform to grow
I think the difference is that each of us are contributing to a network instead of shouting into a void. Arguably, we are still shouting into a void, it just doesn’t have the chatmovingsofastnoonewillseeimgay effect yet. There’s an actual opportunity for engagement and discussion here though, for sure.
Couldn’t agree more with you OP. As someone who often got discouraged from posting on Reddit, I’ve been making an effort to post more here and all the responses have been great. I think it helps that we’re all new here and all on this weird journey together. That being said, I’m so happy to be here with all of you!
Agreed, it all feels a lot more human and natural. Though I will be glad when this Reddit thing calms down, at the minute we sound a bit like bitter angry ex-partners what with so many posts about it. It’s to be expected I know, but once the community has let go of the past we can build a better future, I’m optimistic about that bit!
We may look back in the not-too-distant future and be pretty happy that the angry, bitter, Reddit “thing” happened. An open-sourced, federated model is just healthier than what most of us were satisfied with, before. It took all this to make this mass migration possible.
I’ve been trying to quit reddit for literally YEARS so I’m glad this is all going down. Lemmy is like a nice halfway house between reddit and sobriety, gives me a little bit of a hit that I need to get through the day and then I can just live my life without hitting refresh over and over.
At some point in the last year reddit hit this critical mass of toxicity that just makes the switch that much easier. To everyone saying that Lemmy is too complicated for mass adoption I say GOOD. The more barriers to that the better.
I’m actually more inclined to comment, and engage, here than I would on Reddit. Here I feel like I’m actually contributing verses in Reddit where I’m just one in a sea of thousands.
I was just saying this to a friend yesterday. My interactions here just feel so much more genuine, like I’m part of a real community. I just really hope it stays that way in the face of unforeseeable growth.
It feels very refreshing to be here at Lemmy. It definitely feels like Reddit before the Digg war.
I feel more engaged and that I can share genuinely.
I’m glad you’re feeling the same vibe here.
When I finally got to Mastodon as a Twitter replacement, I actually started to engage. I posted nothing on Twitter ever. Just had it for those moment when I was as sure that Donald trump couldn’t possibly have tweeted whatever it was I saw in a screenshot.
Now I want to actually talk and give a crap
That might be true for the main threads at the other place but I spent most of my time in every place except the defaults, so I feel less of a difference. Even so, I know there’s an uptick in quality just because there’s a bit of friction getting into the fediverse and participating.
Actually being able to see my content on the page instead of being drowned in a sea of reposts, it feels better and makes me more motives to post instead of just lurking.
This gets me thinking that this might be what reddit looked like back in the very beginning - lots of actual users interacting, making contents, etc.
That was also why reddit became flooded with low effort pun chains. Why spend time writing a thoughtful reply for it to be buried, when u can make 5 puns and have 1 of them go to the top?
Or song chains, or really just a quick insult. I’d always see high karma, one-liners. It severely discouraged conversation
It has less bots, that’s for sure.
This new start feels like… really fresh, I like it. Willing to see it’s development.
