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Seriously though, I thought GTA’s tone was feeling a decade out of date even in 2013. It just stinks of the late 90s and early 2000s, specifically of early South Park

  • MaoTheLawn [any, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    30·
    5 months ago

    You could say it’s unnecessary, but Gay bars at the time of release, and to an extent even to this day have this shit written on them, often as a reclamation of the term. Same goes for f*g - queer is now just part of the lingo, when it was a slur before. It’s ‘in your face’, it’s provocative, and I’ve seen people of such groups take pictures with those exact signs as a ‘haha, that’s us, we’re f-gs/tr-nnies, fuck what ya heard’ sort of thing.

    Of course, there are different flavours of queer bar, some are much softer and strive for more of a safe space feel, but there are certainly a lot that lean more into being sleazy, punky, and even intimidating.

    Perhaps I’m being too generous. I could accept that I am.

      • Redcuban1959 [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
        20·
        5 months ago

        Theres an ad in GTA SA or 4 about how the only way to change the world is by voting, and it mocks people who refuse to vote in the US. Really fucking cringe lib mindset.

        I think 4 had a better story than all other GTAs, it sucks that Niko’s gay friend is a steriotypical 2000’s gay man, but kinda cool that Niko and Roman defends him bc they are friends, but there are no more interactions beside him being there at Roman’s wedding.

            • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
              151·
              5 months ago

              It used to be just “ironic” music if I remember correctly, like opera.

              Yeah it does, it also has current-year hits, classics etc., but it also has in-universe advertisements and like, fake talkshow type things. It is very on the nose when it comes to these two things.

                • KobaCumTribute [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  18·
                  5 months ago

                  IIRC for GTA5 it was all satire aimed at mid 2000s Fox, both the trashy reality TV side of it and Fox News. I’m not gonna say it doesn’t revel too much in the spectacle of just taking something that’s already awful and dialing it up a bit, but it’s more in the style of the Onion where most of the bits are taking the mask off an institution or trend and having it honestly portray itself as what it is (like the Fox News expy literally having the tagline “confirming your prejudices” or an American Idol expy literally just being assholes reveling in cruelty) than South Park style nihilism - it has a point to make and that’s that American culture is reactionary and repulsively self-centered and consumerist, even as it is itself reveling in being trashy slop.

                  You’ve got to remember, everything after GTA3 was written in the context of the Bush era and none of it was written after gamergate: it has the sort of incoherent dirtbag quasi-left contemporary counter culture stance of recognizing the US as bloodthirsty, pointlessly cruel, and deeply unserious but also not having any sort of framework for understanding or addressing that and being entirely too libertine and chauvinist on top of that. It’s kind of alien to anything we have now, because that whole counter culture basically got wiped out by gamergate crystalizing the chauvinist libertines into open fascists baying for blood and forcing everyone else to stop tacitly tolerating them.

    • Redcuban1959 [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      12·
      5 months ago

      In GTA 2 theres a mission for the Russian Mob (who are mostly a parody of Slav and Soviet stuff, they even have a place called Crimea lol) that you kidnap random people and watch them get shot only to be served as hot dog.

      Which makes no fucking sense even for a non-sense game like GTA 2. In the PS1 port they changed so you attack rival gang members instead of random civilians.

    • doublepepperoni [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      10·
      5 months ago

      Play Red Dead Redemption 2. It abandons the edgy satire and what Grimbeard would call “smelly boy humour” that Rockstar made their calling card previously

      Even Red Dead Redemption 1 still leans into that GTA tone

  • peppersky [he/him, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    15·
    5 months ago

    These games have always sucked. I don’t know in what possible world I would possibly want to play a videogame and listen and watch fake ads. Not to mention what terribly uninterested these games are in the cities they are actually set in besides their bare physical construction.

    The only reason to ever play these games is to drive around on a motorcycle, which is arguably pretty damn fun.

  • Gorb [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    7·
    5 months ago

    GTA has always been total shit and anyone who likes it is simply wrong. Play a different game GTA players there’s a world of actual decent games out there