Ah yes. Before the dark times. When dragons lay sleeping.
I would add that if isa News website, the 1000 words article is just a verbatim copy from Reuters.
I want more info about [something happening], not to read the same article with minimal information again and again.
And politically biased content… fuck you Reddit
Who made this?
There used to be a link at the bottom for who made it, but it appears to be missing now.
Since they’re talking about JQuery, I think that knowledge is lost to time.
noice
Why aren’t you using ublock origin like a rational adult?
l use it
the biggest mistake of humanity was (and still is) javascript
One ring to bind them all…
Are Temu the ones who say “pretend you’re a billionaire” or something but their ads always have the most bizarre, undesirable-looking, nasty, cheap, plastic things in them?
“Shop like a billionaire”
“Uh, ok”
closes Temu app, calls Sotheby’s
Yep. That’s the ones. Or really pornographic or absurd. Cause buying more makes you feel like you have control of your life when you can buy a new shirt that dissolves when you wash it because you can’t afford to take a day off to walk around a park.
Eh…This is a little rose coloured glasses. Anyone else remember the pre-adblock era of umpteen pop-up ads?
A crummy history of ads on the internet:
Starts out mostly used in formal fields and universities. Very usable!
Businesses get on board and start the horrible ad infestation, leading to scammers and popup hell duw to misuse of a feature.
Ad blockers start to reign in that shit, and the better browsers kill the popup infestation at the source. Pretty darn usable at this point, except for internet explorer.
Google, an ad company, decides to make a browser so they can do all the malicious advertising and tracking on the backend.
uBlock Origin is too effective at blocking the browser based tracking and advertising so google decided to do the manifest 3 or whatever that bullshit is called to openly force ads onto users.
Based on history, I expect chrome to die a slow death due to the backlash from the manifest crap, but could be wrong since people are apparently fine with ads being forced into streaming services.
Businesses get on board and start the horrible ad infestation
There were a couple years where businesses were “entering cyberspace” and still trying to figure it out. Mostly this involved static webpages, since they saw the web as a kind of yellow pages. i.e. a business’ web page was their ad.
people are apparently fine with ads
It amazes me how accepting most people are of ads. I suspect Google’s going to win, and their ultimate contribution to humanity will be forcing ads into everything.
Why google became the dominate search engine in the first place was because every other search engine was an ad infested nightmare fuel.
There is a limit of shit that people will put up with. Google is pushing that limit hard right now. Which is why I no longer use it.
Partially. Not really. Page Rank instantly obsoleted every other search algorithm in existence. Nobody was able to get high quality results right at the top so consistently. The ad-free part was a bonus, at least for a while.
It amazes me how accepting most people are of ads. I suspect Google’s going to win, and their ultimate contribution to humanity will be forcing ads into everything.
People just eat up ‘personalized’ things so whoever coined ‘personalized ads’ was an evil genius.
I think the difference is that there is not really a Netflix-without-the-ads alternative for the same price. And if you are willing to pay a bit more, well, you can just pay for the higher tier of Netflix without ads.
With browsers on the other hand, it’s all free with virtually no barrier to switching. So I think people will defect away a lot more quickly when a browser starts to worsen in quality (especially since Chrome doesn’t have Daddy Microsoft to force users to use it by default)
pop-up ads? Ha… try pop-UNDER ads.
also can’t have ads when there is no javascript to begin with. Just static content.
hah, forgot img tags?
still static content.
also you think content is static just because it has no js? hyperlinks! forms! the server!!!
Hyperlinks and Forms are static, yet they allow for interactivity (communication with the server and or url handler like mailto:, tel:, fax: etc.)
iframes, frames (and framesets) were a fricking mistake. And that malicious practice with meta refresh yeah, that certainly was a thing back then. I loved when internet explorer just clicked on every navigation…
img tags, are not advertisements, or what do you mean? since you probably don’t mean
<img/>also, you can edit your commit so that you don’t have to spam comments.
different point -> different comment?
also ads technically are anything that promotes a product? i’m not using the definition of “visible malware added to a website”
consider this. an iframe containing a page with meta refresh, and on each load, the server adds a different hyperlinked image. and some cookies.
they’re advertisements!
I remember using internet in mid to late 90s and there were no ads, maybe OP means that period?
I think this entire response thread is too young. Back when you connected to the Internet with 14.4k and 28k modems (mid to late 90’s), websites were as OP described. Simply put, there was no bandwidth for too much extra crap.
I started using Internet in 2004 (as a school kid) so i didn’t actually experience modem Internet era, but still i miss it (i’m kind of nostalgia guy as well)
Especially in Poland, where for a long time there was only dial-up Internet connection with 3-minute impulse (where each one was kinda expensive at the time), so you wanted to open as many websites in this timeframe that interested you then disconnect
Not to mention the internet wasn’t as secure as it is now. There was lots of malicious code everywhere. Oh, and if you write a typo in any website’s name there was a 50/50 chance you’ll be redirected to porn.
It was such a time saver…
Imagine my surprise when Spider-Man.com lead to marvels website but Xmen.com lead to porn
Came here to say this. They make a joke about how many adds are on the Internet in an episode of Futurama that aired in 2000.
You are the millionth visitor to this site!! Click here to claim your prize now!Let’s not fool ourselves, adverts were always there and intrusive, remember those hotbars that your parents would have 100 of installed somehow? Sure things are worse, but they were never perfect.
Sure, but we had Bonzi Buddy too. These days the best we can hope for is some AI that tells us to eat rocks.
Also:
Endless redirects that attempt to keep you on the site when you want to nope right out and click the back button
It is always the Microsoft Help Center/Community answers
Idk about chrome but ok Firefox you can right click to go backer
I think the best way to make the Internet less sh*tty is to get away from Google search.
I like the SearX search engine. It gives old-school, relevant search results, not google ranked ones.
It’s also spread out over many separate instances, so you can pick the one that best suits your search needs:
I switched to DuckDuckGo a while back and even that was beneficial. I can always tell when I’m on a different machine and I forget to switch the default search… It’s wild how fast they’ve fallen.
These days I setup ollama with open webui to host my own ai. Then you can connect Searxng to that and have the AI search the web for you and return no nonsense results.
Algorithms
Algorithms? On my website? It’s more likely than you think!
But not needed.
Ad-blocker dedectors
buy crap you don’t needed
Inrelevant information
SO MANY ADS, INRELEVANT INFORMATION, TRACKERS
It’s getting so hard to find outrelevant results these days.
Missed the half-dozen boilerplate SEO sites that scraped the most generic and unhelpful information possible that feature links to whatever barely tangential software or product they might be selling.
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