Considering to buy one for a family member.

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    I quit smoking using a vape and then quit vaping.

    I found that it was easier to quit smoking using a vape because I kept the same motion. I needed a powerful one to feel a similar hit.

    And I found it easier to stop vaping than to stop smoking because I could mix liquids to have any desired nicotine content, allowing me to reduce it very gradually. A lot of people simply replace smoking with vaping but that’s still an improvement.

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        Because different ways to consume have different health hazards.

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        Smoking introduces a lot more chemicals than just nicotine. A lot of health hazards associated with smoking are from the smoke itself, not the nicotine. Vaping allows you to remove the smoke part of the equation. (Vaping also introduces a bunch of hazards on its own, but it’s still overall better than smoking)

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    I quit not only because of vaping and tobacco-less nicotine pouches, but because I wanted it. If you are buying it for a family member, you can’t make them quit… Hopefully they are wanting to, because you can’t make that decision for them. Just like any other addict.

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      I agree with this sentiment. I vaped for years and years because I didn’t actually want to stop.

      But once I did make the decision the vape made it considerably easier.

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        That’s what irritates me about people like OP’s argument. I vaped to get off cigarettes but I don’t necessarily want to quit nicotine. They conflate all the terrible aspects of smoking with vaping and then point to people not quitting vaping as “proof” that it doesn’t work. Not everyone who picks up vaping is trying to quit nicotine.

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    Yes. I switched to vaping after smoking a pack a day for ten years. Then in about a year I was able to winnow my usage down and quit vaping too.

    I had tried many times to quit before that. Have not smoked in 13 years now and after about 8 years I stopped liking the smell.

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      Crazy hearing vaping helped you stop 13 years ago. My brain tells me they only came out 2 years ago…

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        Vaping blew up around 2010 and gradually increased in popularity until all of the Juul controversies happened. Since all of the laws passed to restrict it more, it is now easier to get a non-reusable piece of ewaste than reusable and refillable stuff.

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    I did, but I would mix my own fluid; every couple of batches I would half the nicotine content. Eventually it was near-negligible, and perhaps two weeks after that I was doneski

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    Yes. Switched to vaping and was vaping for multiple years before quitting completely. Biggest thing was the “safety” of always being able to have my fix without an actual smoke. The “never again” mentality made it so hard to ditch the cancer stick but the vape was always like “it’s ok, you can just have a little puff whenever you feel like it”. Slowly down the nicotine content. Puff less. Even less. At some point I just forgot. Still have the vape. Still have the liquid, albeit it’s dark red now and looks radioactive so utterly unusable. But point is that the vape eventually faded into irrelevance in a way that cigarettes never could.

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    The TL;DR on this one is “if someone wants to quit being addicted to nicotine a vape is a decent way to stop.” If they don’t want to, they’ll just switch to the vape instead of smoking.

    So they have to want to quit in order to get any benefit.

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      This is absolutely true, the hardest part of quitting smoking has never been getting rid of the nicotine addiction. It’s not starting again the next time you’re at a bar and your friend goes outside for a smoke and offers you one.

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    Yup.

    An older friend who smoke and drank a ton switched to vapes, and methodically lowered the nicotine content every two-there weeks for months, then stopper nicotine and vaped the flavours but as there was no more nicotine, the habit wasn’t addicting and he just forgot about it more or less.

    Now he’s been alone free for years, and reduced his drinking as well. Looks fucking healthy now.

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    While it may not stop the nicotine addiction. It beats the tar and crap actual cigarettes…

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      Agreed. Although I struggle with vaping nicotine WAY too much and I feel like it has caused me some issues.

      Still, way better than real cigs as far as my lungs are concerned - but the ease of being able to vape and constantly get a nicotine fix has been the real issue for me. Currently reading Alan Carr’s the Easy Way to get this monkey off my back once and for all.

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            The biggest risk we see (outside the risks that are the same as those from cigarettes but less severe) is circulatory health risks (vessel function). Sure, you have increased risk of respiratory disease, but not nearly as bad as cigarettes. The real benefit is that most vaporizers and eliquids are not carcinogenic (directly cancer causing) the way cigarette smoking is, so you can lose the added chance of getting cancer while titrating nicotine dosage down to nothing over a longer period; one of the main failure points of nicotine gums and patches is that they aren’t effective methods for pack-a-day smokers, the usual suggested regimens have them in withdrawal headaches and brain fog quickly and many smokers quit quitting on week one or two.

            We have dozens of ten year studies with HUGE N already. Read them. Check out the REPRIEVE trial data. If you seriously think every single one of the currently available studies and trial results are not “legit science data” you’re insane.

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    Yup.

    I smoked a pack a day for roughly 30 years. My night time breathing was getting ugly and my wife would sometimes get woken up by the sound of my wheezing.

    Every method of quitting failed me except vaping. I started as most do with a high nicotine vape juice that tasted like tobacco, but after about a month I swapped and started going lower and lower nicotine and change the flavor from tobacco to a custardy type.

    2 months of that got me off the cigs. Two more months got me down to zero nicotine. Two or three more months after that I was done.

    I have been off cigs for 7 years.

    My breathing no longer feels wet or difficult at night. And My yearly health tests all come back the same as a non-smoker.

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    20 years smoking 10 to 15 cigarettes a day, switched to vaping for 4 years, then quit completely as I was fed up with the logistics of vaping.

    My last cigarette was 9 years ago and I don’t miss it at all. I consider vaping was the biggest reason I quit, seconded with the avoidance of social situations where smoking is common.

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    Yes! I smoked for over 20 years. I didn’t think I’d ever be able to quit. I started vaping with the goal of quitting, and eventually quit! Then I quit vaping too, about six months later. It’s an excellent cessation method, with almost a 70% success rate. The next closest cessation method has a success rate of 3% and is owned by the tobacco companies.

    Get a device that hits like a cigarette. This means mouth to lung, and not a big DTL cloud machine. It also ideally means a round mouthpiece. Make sure it’s good enough to give throat hit, but not so good that it produces massive clouds. Ideally you want a device that is not sub-ohm. Start with 18mg tobacco flavored juice. Then just vape. Sometimes you’ll smoke cigarettes, and sometimes you’ll vape. Don’t beat yourself up when you smoke, but try to vape more than you smoke. Before you know it, you’ll be reaching for the vape more than the cigarettes, until you don’t reach for cigarettes at all. Then you’re free!

    Once you’re free, wait a month and then cut the juice down to 12mg, then 6, then 3, then a mix of 0 and 3, then 0! After a couple weeks of 0 you’ll just naturally quit, no discipline required.

    Share this information with the person you know, and tell them that if I could do it, anyone can do it!

    Edit: for such a device I recommend the Geekvape B coil series, in higher ohm ranges.