Any social media that you isn’t open and self hostable (Lemmy, Mastodon, etc) should not be used. That includes Facebook, Instagram, Twitter/X, TikTok, and more.
Most social media has, IMHO, been a net-negative for society and I am in the generation that grew up with it in its infancy.
My one wish for Fediverse would be federated identities. So I don’t have to have baronvonj@<platform> for ever single one of them.
On the plus side, it’s nice that you don’t need a new ID for every Lemmy instance.
@baronvonj
What do you mean? I’m posting from a #Friendica account to #mastodon, #lemmy and #pixelfed - One account. no worries
@chronicledmonocle @technologyLemmy sits a bit apart from the rest in that it doesn’t quite work for direct person-to-person interaction. Following Lemmy discussions on Mastodon is possible but clunky and Lemmy doesn’t quite know how to quiet all the @ mentions and things in comments made from Mastodon so they look really loud/busy. I can see Lemmy communities from Firefish but I don’t see any of the posts/comments (maybe I have to follow one first?). I’ve never tried following Lemmy from Pixelfed.
But each of those platforms has a different UI. The experience and features posting media on Pixelfed is much different. But I still have to setup a separate Pixelfed instance account if I want to make use of them. And my data will thus be spread across those instances. And people will need to follow both the Mastodon and Pixelfed accounts if they want to see both sets of posts. I’d love to just hat the one identity to manage with my content from all platforms associated with it.
@baronvonj
Use #Friendica - #lemmy works well there for me - you also got to realise there is a lot of playing around with UIs in different client apps - #Fedilab #racoon plus so many more
@technology
You can use mastodon from Lemmy? I don’t have it so I don’t know how that works.
@SynopsisTantilize
Well Im not entirely sure what will happen using a lemmy account byt try - Grab your Lemmy account and login a client like #Fedilab - Find a Mastodon user and comment or follow them and watch what happens.There are multiple open issues for Lemmy support in FediLab, I don’t think it’s actually supported right now.
You can’t follow Mastodon users from Lemmy. You can view their profiles, but messaging them doesn’t seem to work (I receive no notification of it on Mastodon) and it only shows you the comments they made on Lemmy rather than all their posts. You can @ mention Mastodon users in Lemmy posts and comments, and that works. And they can follow Lemmy communities and their replies show up in the post comments.
You’re describing what Tim Berners-Lee is tryna build with Solid.
I see a GitHub and Xitter linked on there. Any clue if they have a Mastodon or something similar that I could follow?
Not as far as I know. There’s this Mastodon, but doesn’t look legit: https://mastodon.online/@Solid
Ooh, snazzy. I’ll give it a look.
I second this opinion. The federated applications and communities aren’t perfect, but it’s less toxic and better to use in general due to the lack of an all-encompassing algorithm that guides your usage to increase views for ad revenue.
Lol good luck getting the masses on board
I don’t want the masses. They can stay in the containment shart shead.
I couldn’t care less about “the masses”. Most of the world are morons.
couldn’t care less**
Thank you. Corrected.
Ok.
(I bet tiktok doesn’t shut down, but if it does I can’t wait for my kids to tell me about all the meltdowns at middle school over tiktok shutting down. Too many parents let their kids have unfettered internet access. No, mine don’t have tiktok.)
No, mine don’t have tiktok
Bet they do
No. They don’t.
I installed the home LAN, set site restrictions, app restrictions, use parental controls on all their devices, use OpenDNS family shield, PiHole, and app installation controls on their devices.
Even of they did find a way to see it I would see the IP address flagged.
Sounds draconian, but social media is fucked up for kids. They can have access at 16. They have a shitload of other internet freedom, though. They’re good kids.
Good. TikTok is pure fucking brainrot. People acting like it’s disappearance is some great tragedy make me laugh.
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And all of their friends have the same firewalls when they go to hang out?
Not trying to be rude but it seems kinda naive.
My little sister is also not allowed on tiktok but she just uses it on her friend’s phones when they hang out.
Their web browsers are restricted off. They cannot install any apps. This discussion is about what my kids have on their devices, and telling me they might see it elsewhere is irrelevant.
I don’t think you understand my knowledge level, you do me disservice by assuming I’m naive, and your rudeness is because of changing the conditions of the discussion to make yourself right by changing the parameters based on that invented naïveté.
No, I can’t control what they see at their friend’s houses on someone else’s device. I saw the playboy channel at a friend’s house when I was a kid and I didn’t have cable at my house. That’s what kids do. I understand and accept this. I’m not a tyrant or control freak or clutching my pearls. That’s the part where you get to discuss good and bad about social media or any aspect of the internet with your kids, like a parent is supposed to do, and do your best to protect your kids’ mental and physical wellbeing within reason.
Ok I think this is a misunderstanding about what it means to “have tiktok”. If you mean in the context of your house sure.
But I had this same conversation with my parents. There is no reasonable way to actually prevent a kid from having access to tiktok in some contexts. Parents who say their kids don’t use tiktok because it’s not allowed at home are just incorrect.
My dad doesn’t get that when she hangs out with friends or goes to school, she IS seeing tiktok content.
Seems like we actually agree here though.
Stop. Don’t. Come back.
That would go beyond the ban’s requirement for app stores to stop offering downloads of the app, but not immediately halt use of it.
Before the tankies get mad about the “censorship” of the US while failing to mention the LONG list of things you can get straight up arrested for in China
Or have a “tea drinking” session:
When I was able to speak to Ms. Wu about the “tea drinking” session (euphemism for police harassment), she sharply conveyed her sense of vulnerability due to the lack of interest in her stepping away from her popular Twitter account, stating,
Literally the only thing that was keeping me online for the past few years was they were worried it would make China look bad if they cracked down on me. Now that they know that I could be dead in a ditch tomorrow and no one would give a shit or say a word I’m 1000x less safe here.
[…]
Wu added,
After years of doing this without anyone saying anything, on June 30th, out of the blue, they send plainclothes thugs to my house. Surprise! They were real cops.
Why? because she’s LGBTQ+, has a Uyghur partner, and has some friends in Western nations.
reference: https://www.hackingbutlegal.com/p/naomi-wu-and-the-silence-that-speaks-volumes
I know the technicality is that it will be voluntarily stopping service rather than just ending new downloads like the ban says.
But “app will shut down when banned” is almost comically anti-news.
I see ZERO discussion about how this is obvious theatre. We are so incapable of standing up to basic manipulation tactics from the right.
trump first started using tiktok as another xenophobic boogeyman, in what was a fairly nuanced situation - trump’s position being completely wrong, but ultimately some truth to the fact that companies run in China inherently have involvement of the Chinese government and thule should be reached, monitored and if abused, access should be removed.
This actual push was always meant to be something to hang on Biden admin either way (because again, some valid points to a potential ban) but in reality trump will now “save” this artificial shutdown to “restore tiktok” and millions of low information voters and non voters alike will think he did something. And in the meantime, whatever the fuck this lemon8 and red whatever apps are will likely be a huge privacy monitoring home as midst will leave things dormant in background as well after tiktok is “restored”.
Again, we are just so I’ll equipped for anything to do with technology.
I agree with you.
And, well, I assume everything coming from the US is
theaterentertainment from the get-go. That’s why I don’t even bother discussing it anymore although I have recently pointed that out about Trump is trying to divert with the Greenland fiasco and the media is being complicit. This is just another one of the pile. I think he’s purposely flooding the media and pushing for Americans’ mental exhaustion.ultimately some truth to the fact that companies run in China inherently have involvement of the Chinese government
I’d say that’s an understatement. The Chinese government is greatly involved in many aspects of their social media because they don’t have speech protections for individuals nor the press. Xi wants absolute control, so the Chinese government is also involved in other questionable news this week about sponsoring hackers who were primarily targeting the US for gathering intelligence: Millions of Americans caught up in Chinese hacking plot - US. They had state-sponsored malware on 10,000 computers targeting civil rights activists. It doesn’t seem in their interest to play fair, I wonder what their strategy would be if Trump steps in to stroke hes ego.
Also, part of me thinks one of his aides overheard someone talking about banning TikTok for this reason and thought to himself, “Sounds good but it’s too leftist for us to peddle. This would be great to pin on the old geezer!.” and pitched it to Trump as a win-win. It’s absurd, don’t listen to me.
Just fucking get it over with already! I’m tired of hearing about this shit every single day.
Fantastic cant wait!
Cool.
Cool cool cool.
You shut down one app, ten other apps get more popular
Good! Hopefully one of those other apps is federated and free from any hostile interests.
I have my doubts that any app will collect the user base back together ever again. I may be wrong, but once TikTok is gone, people will splinter to different apps that are nowhere near as popular.
Instagram reels about to get a whole lot worse
Is Loops ready for wide scale adoption and federation yet? We kinda need a replacement for tiktok, otherwise the addicts will jump to yet another Chinese platform.
Doesn’t look like it to me. I tried to sign up yesterday and haven’t received the validation email.
Edit: and the UI was very barren and minimal on the video I watched.
There’s a ton of domestic TikTok clones already, like Instagram Reels and YouTube Shorts.
otherwise the addicts will jump to yet another Chinese platform.
People are already moving to rednote.
Sadly it needs a lot of work, I went on it the other day and the app itself crashed at least seven times in the 15 minutes that I was using it
Is Loops ready for wide scale adoption and federation yet
Nowhere near imo. Download the app and see for yourself. It needs WORK.
Link to download? I checked the Play store and there’s a billion apps called Loops
Edit: I found it
If you have $50 Billion, you can buy Tiktok.
I read that Elon Musk might buy it. But the CEO of Tiktok stated that, it isn’t true.
Why would he even need another social media? Besides, dictating what he wants on that site…and make it worse?
I like when Jack Dorsey ran Twitter. It is a crap hole now on there.
As for Tiktok, it won’t matter to me since I am not on there.
you can buy TikTok
Not if they’re not selling
The theory is the tiktok “ban” was an attempt to force a sale on favourable terms , but tiktok has called the bluff.
“Utilities threatened to shut off my power so… I will turn off all the lights in protest!”
That’ll show ‘em.
Not the same. If all the users lose access in one go and a prompt allows them to easily send a mail to their representatives then they can put pressure.
If they allow content to flow it could be 12+ months before some users start receiving errors when the ban is out of their mind. They might associate the less US content with the app not being good anymore.
Has anyone in the House or Senate leadership that has received classified briefings on this done anything to oppose it? An email campaign is going to change absolutely nothing.
Right well thats that then, better off do nothing and let your brand lose power than point out the issues impacting your service.
