50cc
All signs point to yes
This is social media, not a magic 8-ball simulator. 😄
With zero context of you and your circumstances, you’re only going to get responses equal in value to rolling a die or flipping a coin.
Only if you get a Rickenbacker 4001 and start hitting kids with it.
An ice cream sandwich would be substantially less expensive, and you’d look a lot cooler riding that than a moped.
Any reason you can’t use a regular bike?
Not universal advice but most people could use more exercise.
They oughta call it a lessped
Since you provide zero additional context to your question as to your current transport situation or geographical area, I have to believe that you are doing fine as is, and therefore conclude that there is no need for it.
My recommendation is thus:
“No, you shouldn’t”
Since you provide zero additional context to your question as to your current transport situation or geographical area, I have to believe that you are doing fine as is, and therefore conclude that there is no need for it.
‘My’ recommendation is thus:
“HELL YA BROTHER”
What speeds are normally done on the roads you would be riding it on? Up to 50-60km/h you would be ok with 50cc, if traffic normally flows faster than that then get a larger displacement bike/scooter. Bikes are a more enjoyable method of transport than your average car but it’s noticeably less fun (and more dangerous) if you can’t at least keep up with traffic.
Make sure to allocate some money for protective gear as well as a bike. If you’re sensible bikes are nowhere near as dangerous as some people like to make out but if something does go wrong some proper bike gear does make a big difference.
I call them mopeds too, and I’m in California. A scooter, to me, is a two wheel vehicle with a flat platform you stand on and handlebars sticking up in the front. A moped has a seat.
Hi I’m a weirdo who lives in a Philadelphia suburb and whose main transit mode is 50cc scooter (even in this fuckshit cold ass weather).
Some advice:
- practice tight and quick turns without tipping over
- wear helmet and high vis always
- ride like you’re invisible. assume that nobody sees you
- wear bandana/scarf tucked into bottom of helmet & collar of shirt/jacket. insects can get sucked up into your helmet otherwise…
- get anti fog helmet shield and if you wear glasses get some anti fog cleaning wipes
- get a cover and use it (i store mine in the seat trunk)
- make sure you know a mechanic who can work on it if you can’t do it yourself
- have backup transit for dangerous weather (I’m lucky to live in an area with bad but usable public transit and Lyft)
- don’t underestimate wind
- put high octane gas in it. it’s such a tiny engine that the extra energy density makes a noticeable difference in acceleration
I spend $2/week on gas, $240/year on insurance, and have spent less than $200 on mechanic’s fees (oil changes, etc.) in 3 years of owning it. I have been crushing my debt with the money saved not having a car. It’s a powerful way to save money if you’re willing to sacrifice comfort, item/passenger transport capacity, and to some extent reliability
I am with you 100% and you’re living the dream. I am jealous, but my present commute would never accomodate this :(
Higher octane gas is not more energy dense than normal gas. Octane is a measure of the fuel’s ability to resist combustion. Some more highly strung engines require higher octane fuel. Others will run fine on “regular”, but have sensors that enable them to do things like advance the ignition timing, change cam timing and phasing, etc to make more power with higher octane fuel. The final camp of engines is optimized for regular fuel and putting higher octane fuel in them won’t measurably impact performance (power, fuel economy), but it might make the engine sound a little nicer due to reduced pinging. Not that you would even hear that in a modern vehicle thanks to all the optimization and sound deadening.
But! At $2/week in fuel you have very little to lose. If it’s fuel injected and has coil on pack ignition, it might even be able to take a touch more power by running more aggressive ignition timing.
I keep going back and forth about whether I’m imagining it gives better performance or it actually does 😅
I vaguely knew “higher octane” didn’t mean higher percentage of 8-C hydrocarbons but definitely believed the misconception that it was higher energy density. Hm.
It definitely doesn’t have much in the way of sensors (though it does seem to adjust the idle speed in cold weather through some mechanism). It has spark plugs and a carburetor so no dice on coil on pack ignition or fuel injection.
The mechanic I took it to did say he thought it would run better in cold weather with higher octane fuel but didn’t elaborate.
Why not an eBike? I’d always prefer that over a moped personally.
Fat bikes are basically that
At 50cc an e-bike isn’t much slower. I’ve been eyeing some electric unicycles and although they’re expensive the range and speed can be quite good. As someone else mentioned though be aware of the insurance implications.
I’m thinking of getting an e-bike. Any suggestions on where I should start researching e-bikes?
If you have a decent bike shop nearby, I’d recommend going there and asking for advice on what to get. You should also be able to go for short test rides there on any bikes that interest you. Before buying, also research the bike online to see if there are any common issues or complaints with it.
At 50cc I would get an e-bike, mine can travel at similar speeds and it’s a fun ride, very maneuverable. I consider a scooter only if I could afford one that was reliable, preferably stylish and could hit 45 mph easily because then it could comfortably run on the 35 mph streets around here.
But sure, if you want one and it fits your transportation needs, why not?
At 50cc I would get an e-bike
Agreed. The e-bikes have reached around the same performance, maybe more.
Keep in mind the battery lifespan tho. They degrade drastically overtime. This is one thing that keeps me on ICE.
I have a moped, but it’s 110cc instead, can travel 80 km/h easily, max out at around 100 km/h.
Keep in mind the battery lifespan tho. They degrade drastically overtime.
For most people the batteries will outlast the bikes. After 30,000km or so, you may have to exchange the battery. My 2020 eBike’s battery hasn’t noticably gotten worse.
They must’ve improved while I wasn’t looking, then. I’m glad to know that.
I’d say depends on where you are and what you plan to use it for.
In my state, at least, I considered it, but I wouldn’t be able to use it to the fullest because you can’t legally ride them on some highways because it can’t keep up with the speed and I often needed to use those highways. Without using those, I would either get stuck somewhere, need to take a longer route, or illegally use the highway which could be dangerous.
So I opted to just get a motorcycle instead of a scooter for my situation.
But if it’s just around a city or town, a scooter would do the job just fine.
What about ebikes?
I’ve been thinking about purchasing an e-bike (I just sold my car because I never use it). Do you have any suggestions where I should begin researching for the quality of e-bikes?
where I should begin researching for the quality of e-bikes?
I would start here.
Thanks, I’ll give this a read.
If you’re in a city sure. Those tiny scooters have been pretty popular it seems. Out in the corn fields less so, when every little hub of a few small shops is at least 5 miles apart that might get a bit annoying.
Depending where you live and your financial situation. It’s good for picking up girls at that age, or impress the boys. Don’t get one if don’t need one. Don’t get one if you can’t afford one. And if you get one, take 49cc because the insurance is cheaper.
