• shawn1122@lemm.ee
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      We wouldn’t be having this conversation if it were an unmitigated genocide because every Palestinian would already be dead.

      Israel, courtesy of the US, has enough firepower to wipe out the West Bank and Gaza several times over. Yet it never happens. Why?

      Perhaps, Netanyahu and his ilk have something to gain by keeping the conflict active.

      But ultimately they want to take the territory. They dream of making Gaza, specifically its beach, a tourist destination.

      Trump is going to help make all of this happen sooner than it would have. He wants peace in the Middle East to be one of his legacies and the quickest means to that end is to give Israel what it wants.

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        I’m Jewish. The Germans committed an unmitigated genocide for a long time, but here we are talking.

        The definition of genocide does not require you to kill all of them.

        Israel will never succeed in killing all Palestinians, and they still have committed genocide

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        We wouldn’t be having this conversation if it were an unmitigated genocide because every Palestinian would already be dead.

        I submit that the Holocaust happened even though there are still Jewish people.

        Israel, courtesy of the US, has enough firepower to wipe out the West Bank and Gaza several times over. Yet it never happens. Why?

        You seem so disappointed.

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          The Holocaust was not a territorial dispute. Completely different situation. Also I would not call it an unmitigated genocide. It was mitigated by the efforts of the allied forces.

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            territorial dispute

            Holy fuck. This is now the most disgusting mealy-mouthed euphemism for genocide I’ve ever seen. Shame on you.

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              Sadly, territorial disputes can result in genocide, as we have seen in this case.

              It’s also interesting to see how quickly (in less than a generation) the victims of a genocide can become perpetrators of one. It says something, quite demoralizing, about humanity.

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                Sadly, territorial disputes can result in genocide, as we have seen in this case.

                How nice of you to finally admit that it’s a genocide.

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        They’re doing it as fast as they think they can get away with.

        “Oh he could just carpet bomb all of Gaza and he hasn’t, ever think about whyyyyyyy”?

        What an utterly ridiculous premise, and you’re explaining their actions on this? Just so pathetic.