• garbagebagel@lemmy.world
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    So the cartels, who profit directly from the high demand of drugs by Americans, were given weapons, by Americans, to meet that demand of drugs. They then essentially hijacked the mexican government with those guns and violence in order to keep their drug supply available to Americans, meanwhile destroying hope for peaceful life for many many towns and people in mexico. But it’s the Mexicans trying to escape those problems, once again created by demand in the US, who are the problem?

    How very fucking American.

    You know who doesn’t have a fentanyl problem? Mexico. They’re not the ones creating demand.

    I’m simplifying, I know, but I’m very fucking tired of Mexicans and South Americans being blamed as if the US hadn’t fucked the entire country and almost the entire South American continent over for the last 50 years.

    I know I’m probably preaching to the choir here but fuck man I’m just tired.

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      The exact plan is to make everyone too tired to understand they’re being played against each other.

      The average American lives nearly identical lives and has nearly identical axioms, wants and feelings as the average Mexican, the average South American, the average Canadian, etc. The only real differences are superficial and aesthetic, and if we all woke up with amnesia tomorrow, and the borders were erased from maps, we would probably all just intermix and form a whole new world as we discover each other’s foods, customs, ideas and desires without being afraid of “losing our cultures” or any of the manufactured fears the powers have instilled in us about the “other.”

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      You do know that US intelligence agencies and military have been heavily involved in organizing the global drug trade, including smuggling drugs like Heroin and Cocaine into the US?

      It has always been a tool of power. This is why Reagans wife told kids to “just say no to drugs” in a concerned voice, while her Husband organized tonnes and tonnes of Cocaine to be smuggled into the US to finance a fascist terrorist organization overthrowing democratically elected governments and killing tens of thousands of civilians. Oh and he used part of the profits to sell weapons into a war zone against US legislation and explicit decision of congress, so more brown people are being murdered.

      Further fun fact, Mexican Cartels ended up with military assault rifles from the German manufacturer Heckler&Koch, circumventing export bans. So it is not just the US that likes to join in on it.

      https://www.npr.org/2019/02/21/696561255/heckler-koch-fined-4-2-million-over-assault-rifle-sales-in-mexico

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    Yeah and not just guns that are smuggled abroad from the US. Most illegal guns in Europe come from former wars, stolen out of abandoned and badly secured depots. The balkans, Iraq and Afghanistan. And once the war in Ukraine is over many unused weapons will flow into the European criminal circuit.

    The entire Military Industrial Complex is making the world more dangerous even during peace time.

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    Wrong. I don’t know why Jay Hulme feels the need to lie but there is more than one gun store in Mexico.

    A quick look at Wikipedia clearly shows that there are actually two gun stores.

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    Because screenshots of what someone said on social media aren’t journalism:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Mexico

    Mexico has restrictive laws regarding gun possession. There are only two stores in the entire country, DCAM near the capital, and OTCA, in Apodaca, Nuevo León. It also takes months of paperwork to have a chance at purchasing one legally.

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      So you’re saying it’s easier to get a gun in Mexico than a RTX 5000 GPU in the US

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          nah. You should probably buy a gun now if you aren’t a danger to yourself.

          EDIT: Assuming you are in the US or its neighbours.

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              My local gun store is a guy with a pile of ammo the size of a minivan in his attic. He got a FFL collectors license or something, I don’t know the precise legalities, so he can build his own and get rare shit without having to, honestly I’m not sure whether he pays more tax now than he would have, but the paperwork has got to be worse. Maybe he has a paperwork fetish. That actually does sound like him.

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              Eh, if I’m in a situation I need to use my gun, the gun store is either defunct or I don’t care about federal law anymore.

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          If I was living in the US, I’d definitely stock up on guns and ammo at this point. Not that it’ll help, when the fascists come for you, but at least I wouldn’t go down without a fight.

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            This is the one reason I’m happy Biden was in office. It gave everyone four more years to prepare. Marginalized communities were some of the heaviest buyers during that time. Small arms have been used to inflict losses on fascists since fascists became a thing. Disarmed groups are substantially more in danger than armed groups.

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        Are you implying that it’s easy to get an RTX 5000 in Mexico??

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        Yeah, but since the RTX 5000 doesn’t even exist, it’s no wonder

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          It definitely exists, why comment that and not take 5 seconds to look it up? It’s such a common thing and it’s just mind-boggling to me, don’t say shit if you haven’t even tried to verify it.

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            Sure, that’s on me. But the commenter was clearly referring to the RTX 5000 generation cards rather than RTX 5000 card since the implication that he’s having difficulties building an AI computer cluster is silly.

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      I’m glad this got linked. It’s definitely the gun version of “you’re not fighting the predator by buying more cats… you’re just feeding it cats.”

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    They do get many from straw purchases here, which is already illegal can get you 10+yr in federal prison.

    But also they get a fuckton of full auto guns that are illegal here from the mexican military’s corrupt members, and other sources like china, somehow they get explosives too including south korean grenades have been found which is wild, and the best is Operation Fast & Furious, where the ATF just directly sold them a bunch of AKs “to track” and then surprise! “lost” them. They get em from multiple sources.

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    Most places, if not all places there’s a war, there are American weapons. Remember all the people coming after the American soldiers in Black Hawk Down, well they used American weapons.

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      Sounds to me like someone should build a barrier of some sort to keep all those undesirables from the south out of their country.

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    Not sure if I’d really use the troubles as a defense against the proliferation of personal ownership of firearms…

    Kinda hard to claim you’ve been “radicalized” by denying other radicalized individuals the ability to fight off a oppressive foreign government with a long history of genocidal tyranny against your entire ethnicity.

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      … most of witch regimes were set up and funded (weapons too) by the USA or Russia. Usually they were terrorist groups before forming a formal government. And the problem being that the status quo is usually the most profitable and politically beneficial (gives the mentioned colonisers more direct power over the de fuckto marionette countries).

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    Reminder that as of 2025, the US is the only country with more privately owned guns than people, at 120.5 guns per 100 people… The 2nd highest is the Falkland Islands at 62.1 guns per 100 people.

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      Do the Falklands count as a country? I’m not sure what the situation is there.

      Also, New Zealand is pretty high up on the list.

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      Seriously though, what the fuck is the civilian excuse for guns on the Falklands? The only native natural predator that could hurt the sheep is long extinct. I guess they’re afraid the sheep will have a revolution.

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    Too fast, too furious…

    https://www.cnn.com/2013/08/27/world/americas/operation-fast-and-furious-fast-facts/index.html

    The craziest thing cartels buying guns in America and smuggling them into Mexico isnt that the US government was selling to people they thought were smugglers.

    It’s that the people at the gun store are doing the same shit people are doing all over the place.

    The used gun market is insane, I know a couple people that constantly buy new guns and sell them less than a year later. They don’t question why some person is willing to buy $200 over new price for a used gun.

    And the way the law is structured, that’s in their best interest.

    If a random person walks up and asks to buy a gun, you don’t have to ask any other questions as a “private seller” and since you can only get in trouble if you know that person can’t own a gun, the less questions the better.

    The “private sale” loophole makes every other gun law just a slight hassle to get around. But no one wants to actually close it.

    Edit:

    It also incentives those sales.

    No gun store will pay as much as someone who can’t buy from a gun store.

    So to make sure someone ends up with that can legally have it, the seller loses money.