I’ll take my downvotes, but while I agree with the sentiment in this particular comic I have no fucking interest in seeing shitty pizzacake and her no-punchline comics or her army of sycophants here on Lemmy.
I will never understand why some of you insist on bringing the garbage we left Reddit to escape over here to Lemmy. Let pizzacake have her tiny window of microcelebrity on reddit and please spare the rest of us this bullshit.
“Why can’t everyone else just hate the same things I hate!?”
Imagine being this worked up about a webcomic, shitty or otherwise.
Also “this worked up”, lol.
Just curious, exactly how worked up do you think a person must be to undertake the Herculean effort of making a drive-by Lemmy comment?
Yes clearly this is consuming the whole of my being.
Yeah, passivity in the face of decline has always been the preferable option. Protecting our sacred decorum is so much more important than maintaining a critical eye and standards. Great take.
I think you’re asking for the moon here, pal.
You’re not wrong. The fact that I’m fighting a knowing losing battle doesn’t make it less meaningful in my eyes, however.
It might help if you included, like, any real information at all since this is so important and meaningful to you. Or just keep raging into the night like a lunatic lol.
We really need a deadly plague that’s easy to vaccinate against.
That would be cruel, as it would cost countless innocent lives of those who cannot be vaccinated because of preexisting conditions, allergies or whatever.
My sister has lost several friends when they voted MAGA and showed their true, horror selves. My sister is a hero.
It’s silly to me to see either side point a finger and say “they do this or that” . The minute you categorized a single person as a group you already lost the argument. This applies to both sides. Don’t be a fool and decide that if your friend votes differently than you that it’s an attack on you personally. There are only 2 main voted for parties with many different stances on many different things all lumped into a party. Just bc you’re in part A doesn’t mean you agree with all of it.
Yeah idk why you’re getting downvoted. A major part of the problem in my opinion is bucketing people and making huge generalizations based off the culture wars that the bourgeoisie has created to get us bickering amongst ourselves.
Comment after 9 month. Come with your main account. XD
This is my only account and not sure what your eluding to here honestly. I don’t comment often nor do I spend much time on social media as I have a career and family to tend to. I still stand by my comment and have nothing to hide.
I seriously had a Right-Wing friend of mine try to tell me that
“The Trans needed some pushback because they were simply demanding too much” Card
Which hurt, especially with a “You need to learn to compromise, we’re not asking much. It’s not going to tear your arm off to put biologically accurate data onto government documents.” Stat Boosting Spell Card he threw down when I pointed out that Trump was ordering people to put M’s on Transwomen’s documentation
I’d never been more insulted in my life. Bro had no clue he was legitimately saying the modern version of “Look the Government just needs to know your background, wearing that Star of David in public isn’t going to get you killed.”
Thankfully he was willing to listen when I pointed that goof out to him… He’s still a Right Winger who’s now willing to walk back his statements in favor of “Agree to disagree”
I love my friend and I’d stand up if his rights were being violated, I’m just horrified to realize he absolutely will not show me the same decency.
Kind of ironic that those who preach for a small government are the same just have to collect as much documentation as possible. Ironic until you realise how helpful that might be if you want to persecute some minorities eventually.
“You need to learn to compromise, we’re not asking much. It’s not going to tear your arm off to put biologically accurate data onto government documents.”
Like… Why though? For what reason does the government need this and why would a normal person even care? I could see that it needs to be documented in medical history but even then they should refer to you properly.
God, does the “Asking for too much” card drive me fucking crazy.
These darn queers and their desire to walk the streets without the risk of being beaten to death, how dare them!i used to follow ytubers like that they will listen to reason, but was still “anti-wke this or that” something changed during the pandemic and then went full maga.
Ugh, I hate Right Wing Youtubers. You can see Google’s political bias on full display with them. I always find it suspicious that non-political youtubers can’t say “Kill” in ANY context without it being counted as a swearword on par with the N-Word…
But Right Wingers can say the most hateful shit and are still allowed to have a channel with PragerU platforming LITERAL CHILD ABUSE yet still being allowed to do a show targeted at kids.
There was this DBD Youtuber who was spitting straight facts about the horrible decisions made with the game, and then he moves from his first point (bullshit nerfs that feel so random that it’s likely play testing wasn’t done with them) to talking about how the game is “Unrealistic” and to that I said
“Okay… it’s a dark cartoony game where you play Hide and Seek with Freddy Krueger and the Xenomorph, it 's not meant to be reali… Ah THERE we go.”
Why did I say “THERE we go!” Because he immediately jumps to “Like 1/5 of the cast is canonically gay! But there’s only like .0001% of people who are gay in real life”
And I had to point out that “You were cooking… until you got really homophobic.” in the comments
He actually responds to me and gets into a shouting match.
He goes on and on about how the character David King was “Clearly intended to be a straight man”, because his backstory “Had him be VERY manly!”, and that it was an attack on him personally that he was “Changed to be gay”
I calmly told him that the devs can do whatever they want with their characters. I mean yeah if they said “Oh , btw, Laurie Strode’s a lesbian”, that’d be bad because the job of the guest characters is to show them as they were IN THEIR ORIGINAL FILMS! But… they didn’t make Laurie Strode gay, they made David King, a character Behavior created themselves, gay.
He gave me the same bullshit about “David King’s original story had him being manly!”
I pointed out that David King’s CURRENT story still had him be manly, and that manly men exist in the gay community (With David being something of what they call a “bear” in the gay community), oh and the big one… this wasn’t some recent out of nowhere Overwatch-style retcon, he’d been hard confirmed as gay VERY early on… So, wasn’t sure why he was complaining.
Because I knew that (very common and well-known piece of information), I outted myself to him as “ONE OF THEM!!111”, and he said something to me I’ll never forget.
That I was one of the “queers” ruining America, who was as he put it “Offended by Everything and Ashamed of Nothing!”
Now that was the most mask off he’d been all conversation.
I simply asked what was it he felt that I had to be ashamed of… Never got an answer, so I can only assume he didn’t know himself.
Later I found I was subscribed to him, likely had done so early on in his vid. He was live-streaming killer and complaining about a well-known Youtuber who exposes Toxic Players in the DBD community… The whole stream it was nothing but shitting on this Youtuber for, and get this, defending gay gamers from homophobic bullies instead of “Letting them get what they deserve for shoving it down people’s throats.”
When I realized this I left the stream, downvoted, and unsubscribed.
I wish him well and hope he changes, but since I know he’s unlikely to, deep down I hope he’s having a rusty nail shoved up his dickhole and that it gets infected.
I’ve sadly since learned that the homophobe not only was still at the homophobia game, but had gotten the slogan “Ally to the Community” trending through the Toxic Side of the community as a backhanded way of insulting… anyone Pro-LGBT affiliated with DBD.
My point is, I just hate people who do nothing but hate and how they that despite being the clear aggressor, seem to believe they’re never the ones in the wrong.
Nyway, I should lay down for bed, but before I go I must say
inb4
“If they have a problem with things being shoved down their throats they shouldn’t deepthroat so fucking hard.”
This artstyle looks like “what if Control Alt Delete was drawn by someone who had fashion sense and also talent”.
I like it.
Same, It’s sad that art actually peaked in the 2000’s, everything has to be “On Model” and “Simplified” now.
Is the “just because we disagree on politics we can still get along” frame of mind generally a conservative thing? Because on one hand, it makes sense. On the other hand, I find it very difficult, for example, to look past the fact that some conservatives want to stop aid to Ukraine (as a Ukrainian living in the US).
Indeed, many Conservatives are of the “I just ate, so I guess World Hunger is a myth” variety.
Unless something is specifically happening to them personally, it isn’t THAT big a deal.
A lack of empathy is a hallmark of the ideology.
I chuckled at the “I just ate, so there’s no hunger example” because I have a conservative-leaning friend who was of the “it just rained, so there’s no drought” mentality.
human and civil rights aren’t “politics”
What can someone self identify as though, can I self identify as a specific race, species, nationality, etc… where does one determine where to draw the line?
Clearly its going to be an issue that leads to some disagreement as it is open to ambiguity. If anything can self identify as anything would that be the middle path?
Obviously it has real implications in reality as well, like grants and shelters that go towards a specific demographics that are disproportionately disadvantaged. If people can self identify then it is obviously ripe for exploit, and how do we police that outside of the same witch hunts the anti-trans people are on, so how do we solve this one?
human and civil rights aren’t “politics”
You will agree that human and civil rights, such as the right to keep and bear arms, is not politics? If you disagree, why is your preferred civil rights not politics, but other’s preferred human and civil rights are?
If politics includes the realm of persuading enough people and institutions to adopt or forget laws and standards, however moral of immoral they are, then rights of any kind are political.
Rights aren’t given in society for nothing. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights were created following WWII in which we saw the greatest political conflicts in the modern, technological age. Civil rights, at least in the US, have taken many acts as well as background political pressure to get to where we are today, and this institutionalizing of equal rights among American citizens only started after the US Civil War, the only civil war that country had ever experienced at that point.
Everything is politics.
why not? What definition of politics are you using
Just wanted to say thank you. I never explicitly thought of it this way. Just that human and civil rights are important. I’m going to start framing it this way because it’s the truth.
I guess you’re right.
I was at a loss as to what to do when a few of my friends were expressing support for Trump, knowing that he plans on cutting aid to Ukraine (as well as other fucked up shit).
More often than not, MAGA tend to stab themselves in the back. They just don’t have the self-awareness for it.
The upside to Fascism is that it’s never back in town for long. You don’t have to worry about it becoming the new status quo.
The bad news is, you do absolutely have to fight tooth and nail because although it will take itself out in the end, it will take innocent people with it. The reason we fight is to do three things
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Minimize the damage
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Make it harder for Fascism to come back
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Create a new status quo to replace the one that was so bad that people wanted to do fascism in the first place.
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Sometimes they become selfawarewolves. Is there an instance like leopardsatemyface on lemmy?
Edit: yup !leopardsatemyface@lemmy.world
was thinking of saying the knife should be in the back but the artist is right. this is pretty in the front.
Yeah now with trump them trans kids have to show them genituls at sports events.
What do you mean I don’t have insurance anymore? I don’t understand!
I’m honestly surprised we haven’t accused the people demanding “Genital Searches” of being paedos
Pretty much the level of thinking of these people.
A lot are looking at things like COL increases and one party claims they’re gonna lower prices and lower taxes and they don’t think about all the benefits they get from certain policies that are likely to be reversed and seem to think the biggest government budget is foreign aid, so all you have to do is cut that to solve the problems.
But they’ll be happy about it if it hurts someone else they don’t like in the process.
Isn’t that the saddest thing? Imagine being motivated by hatred. Feels like such a shitty thing to live for.
Imagine having so little to be proud of in your life that you chose to side with the oppressors in order to feel some vague sense of accomplishment.
99% of partisan voters do this, unfortunately.
At least, that’s the case if you look back at the last eight years. It’s a testament to the grip that the rich have on the poor here that anyone still votes Democrat or Republican.
BUT, I agree 100%. If your politics are deliberately harmful to marginalized groups, it’s pretty fucked up to make the argument that “it’s just politics”.
Pretty much every damn thing is political.
“it’s just politics” is such an empty statement.
Among my tacklebox of electronic components is a small baggie of microswitches because of my politics. Right to repair and all that, I specifically keep a stock of switches to keep my old Logitech mice going rather than buy new mice. Everything is political.
It’s so easy to ignore how one of Biden’s final acts as president was to deny Transgender Americans healthcare through TRICARE.
Anti-LGBT bills have been flooding state and federal legislatures, and only a handful of Democrats have been brave enough to oppose them.
I have called multiple democratic senators and representatives about the fact that employment and housing protections for transgender people have been stripped in Oklahoma - that it’s been a problem for the last 4 years. No one gives a shit.
I’ve got a TEACH grant that I did 3/4 years of before they made it impossible to continue teaching without moving to another state. I promised to teach in OK for 5 to get further financial incentives. I would love to be in a classroom but it is de facto illegal and several de jure things make that impossible.
No one has given a shit. No one gives a shit. We can get murdered, and our deaths might make the news, but then the state can cover it up (Nex, the trans woman in Grove). The Dems have left POC and LGBT people in the south to fight their States alone.
Pretty much every damn thing is political.
“it’s just politics” is such an empty statement.
Had kind of a similar conversation with my dad recently. “I’m sorry you feel that way.” “Well they’re cutting Medicaid, so we’ll see how that goes for you.”
‘I’m sorry you feel that way.’ He’s sorry you think people should have equal rights?
Your dad doesn’t have a political problem, he has a morality problem.
Even the non-apology “apology” is unacceptable!
Please remind us in four years what happens
“What is the charge? Eating a meal? A succulent Chinese meal?”
This is democracy manifest!
The Left and the Right feels like Feet Guys vs Cannibals chewing on a bunch of toes.
As a leftist feet guy who is regularly chewing on toes I can confirm.
Tolerance paradoxically demands intolerance of the intolerant.
It was pointed out to me a while back that the paradox of tolerance is only a paradox if you consider tolerance to be a philosophical position.
In fact, we don’t treat it like that. We treat it as a social contract, in which context it is no paradox at all to say that if you aren’t tolerant then other people aren’t obliged to tolerate you in turn
The term paradox was used because it comes from the “so much for the tolerant X” instances during mid XXth century. It’s the incorrect assumption that tolerance is somehow a foundational principle of some ideology, mainly left, socialist and communist ideology; just because they were protesting intolerant policy and stances from the right. The right stupidly believes that this means that the left advocates for unlimited tolerance of everything as an extension of fundamental freedoms, like free speech and free thought.
This was at a time when the debate on the lawful limits of freedom in democracies was raging. In comes Karl Popper and produces the formal philosophical formulation of the paradox. He starts at freedom and demonstrates that in order for a free open and peaceful society to exist, then they must be tolerant, but, they must not held tolerance as a tenet, instead being intolerant of any intolerance. It is important as the first philosophical formulation of liberal democratic thinking. It actually distances itself from communism because, according to Popper, communism and even socialism will always end up in bloodshed, violence, and suffering.
The concept of social contract was not unknown to Popper, but it was not necessary for his argument to make sense. For, since Weber, it’s understood as a given that wherever humans happen to live in community, some form of social contract will exist. Popper is not concerned with the existence of the contract, but to argue about its content.
This here - the social contract view needs to be widely adopted
Agreed. Respect for what is essentially the golden rule is the bare minimum to be accepted by a rational society.
That realization was life-changing for me. It finally gave me the clarity to walk away from toxic relationships, knowing they were the ones holding back any real growth.
The only downside is that trying to explain this to someone intolerant just gets you labeled, quote, “a stupid science bitch who can’t make them smarter.”
science bitches are the best kind
smart is sexy!
It’s not really a paradox when you think about it. In fact, it’s absolutely necessary.
Yeah i originally was going to write “seemingly paradoxically” but it made it seem more like I was saying “seems to demand…” And I wanted to make sure it came across as a definite, if you know what i mean.
Specifically the lactose intolerant.
I have a theory about lactose intolerance. You now how humans in general just struggle with digesting lactose unless the body has built up enzymes over time. I think lactose intolerant people are just dairy addicts haha.
I’ll just leave this here… (see alt/hover text for TLDR)
Those are ok, they can stay.
Usually they tend to move around reaching for a bathroom :p
It’s Karl Popper time!
Curious. How does that work when someone is beating you with a baseball bat or robbing you?
As MartianSands pointed out, tolerance is not a philosophy; it is a social contract. When intolerance breaks that contract, the tolerant are under no obligation to tolerate it.
You don’t tolerate it…? Is this supposed to be a trick question? Sometimes when you don’t tolerate something, you are largely powerless against it and it still happens. Sucks, but that’s life. You don’t have to roll over and present your balls to the bat though.
My trumpet sister has wisely stopped praising her false god in my presence when they visit at least
Charisma increases by +10
…at first i thought this was because some left Parties don’t care about all these stabbings.
But that’s more an issue in Western Europe then while MAGAs show their potential of destructivity in US.
Philosophy Tube recently did a great video on exactly this. It’s on Nebula for those who subscribe.
Gave a down arrow for the artist not the message
What’s wrong with the artist?
Some people don’t like her because she makes a lot of comics that are like, “Haha, I have portrayed myself as the chad and you as the wojak, therefore I am superior!” Without having any actual comedic value. Example 1, Example 2 (both are reddit links, you have been warned).
She also threatened r/bonehurtingjuice with legal action to make them ban remixes of her comics, something not even Stonetoss (the Nazi comic everyone hates) has done.
Don’t forget about the comic she made downplaying the seriousness of male r*pe on mens mental health awareness day, and the arguments she participated in under her own post with male victims of SA.
Link?
Here’s a r/SubredditDrama post that covers what was said before mods nuked the comments section
And another with more proof of mods nuking comments
they won’t respond because there is none.
Receipts have been posted above. Respectfully, I hope more people realize that when someone tries to paint every single one of their critics as being a misogynistic incel, that its a manipulation tactic. (Even though, yes, reddit is full of those too)
I find it really distasteful that she makes comics “in support” of trans people while denying those born as male can experience sexual assault. It’s just a different, more subtle/socially acceptable form of transphobia.
Oh wow, that sounds positively charming.
So dine people don’t like her because she tells them to piss off? Not a bad reason for me.
She used to be pretty funny years ago, before she started focusing on hating her haters instead of making actual funny stuff. She started doing things like making a comic she knew would piss off some bigots in the comments, then making another comic (or a few) making fun of the people that hated on her to farm karma from the people who saw the original comic. Some people like that. It’s just a bit too toxic for me. I blocked her account a long time ago, so idk what she’s making these days.
I found both examples kinda marginally funny.
Nothing nowhere near anything that would be reason to downvote some other piece of her work, like the one in the OP.
Beyond that, call me old fashioned, but copyright is copyright.
I liked both comics. I also like bone hurting juice. Fair use is valid.
Yep, if they’re funny to you, then good for you. I’m not trying to claim that she’s objectively bad or anything like that. I’m just explaining why a lot of people don’t like her.
What is this shit? Every single time I see this uninspired bullshit-ass half-cocked nonsense it’s absolutely nothing. There is no joke here. There is no subtext. There is no comedy. This is just a series of vignettes showing things that wouldn’t be interesting if they happened to me. I wouldn’t find this engaging if I witnessed it occurring from across the room, and yet this artist has decided it deserved to be committed to MS Paint so that we could all witness their mundane life in perpetuity.
I mean, seriously, is this an NFT-type scam or something? Are they using their Patreon to launder money, and driving upvotes here in order to create the illusion that they could realistically be receiving that much? I just cannot fathom that something so “haha relatable” without the “haha” bit could be generating THOUSANDS of positive interactions.
That was pretty funny.
those examples are terrible. does she not get to respond to all the hate she gets because she’s an artist or because she’s a woman?
either way you answer you’re wrong because anyone has the ability to respond to the hate and vitriol they receive.
I don’t know what’s more pathetic Example 1, Example 2 ; that fact that people are so butthurt over her they have to go out of their way to make her sound shitty, or the fact that people go out of their way to mention how much they hate her.
don’t like her? just ignore her, she can’t hurt you. just move on man…it’s just making you look sad and pathetic.
This comment has most of what I would say to reply to you, so I’m linking it. Could you point out exactly what I’ve said so far that led you to believe that I’m biased against PCC because she’s an artist or a woman?
cool story bro.
it’s not what you said, it’s that you said anything at all.
did you guys ever stop to think that maybe, just maybe, the reason why she makes fun of you is because you keep coming back with more hate? that she gains far more impressions and traffic on pointing out the hate and engaging with it instead of allowing it to steamroll her? that she somehow feels empowered when she calls out the sexist and vile shit people say to her–online–in public–for everyone to see?
of course not. why would you? you see pizzacake and you just get filled with so much raw emotion you can’t control yourself and lash out like a child only to be driven to attack…a comic artist…
stop acting like a petulant child.
I haven’t spoken about PCC in, possibly, multiple years. I only posted because I was answering someone’s question.
did you guys ever stop to think that maybe, just maybe, the reason why she makes fun of you is because you keep coming back with more hate?
Well, she’s not making fun of me because I don’t leave those kinds of comments on her posts, but yeah, this is literally what I just said she was doing. It’s called rage-baiting and it’s going really well for her because the popularity she gains from it translates to Patreon memberships.
you see pizzacake and you just get filled with so much raw emotion you can’t control yourself and lash out like a child only to be driven to attack…a comic artist…
If by raw emotion you mean mild disappointment at the lack of a punchline, sure.
Just spitballing here, but it seems like you’re trying to turn me into something I’m not so that you have a target to spew hatred on. I’m not one of those people raging in the comments about “trans bad, me angry!11!” that I’m sure you love to hurl insults at on Reddit. I’m just someone that doesn’t like comics that I don’t find humorous.
just so I can get the message clear from you.
- you don’t want to interact with PCC at all
- you have zero intention of hurling insults
- you aren’t a rage baiting troll.
if that’s true then why did you;
- click on a post about a PCC comic
- read through the comments and pick the one comment that was rage bait to respond to
- provide a low effort “explanation” about why anyone should hate PCC with examples of the artist “retaliating” against her outspoken critics
I’m going to be honest with you, I’m having a really hard time understanding the logic you used to get here. so help me out.
you say you don’t like comics you don’t find humorous, yet you go out of your way to waste your time and effort to post a comment supporting a narrative that the artist is a terrible person for…defending themselves? not only that, you continue to return again and again to defend your position on an artist you claim you don’t care about…
from my perspective, it seems like you’re either a rage-baiting troll or you’re an enraged simp that’s upset because you feel personally attacked by a woman and now that your views are getting called out you’re too embarrassed and emotional to take a step back and evaluate your opinion.
give me a third option here, I’m not seeing a lot of other ways to view you right now.
She’s not actually making fun of them, though, she’s making fun of a stereotype which she imagines her “haters” to be.
The two linked examples are pretty much the definition of a strawman argument.
Some people hate anything they perceive as popular, even within a niche.
If you look at the subject matter she covers, it’s typically very safe, middle of the road stuff, at least considering her fan base, see MAGA BAD here as an example.
As a result, her comics are very middle of the road, bland and unimaginative.
If “maga bad” is an uncontroversial take, then how come Donald Trump is the president?
at least considering her fan base
Do read the entire comment, yeah?
Right, so when Bernie Sanders says socialism is good, that’s a bland “middle of the road” take given his fan base?
If so, what even is the criticism supposed to mean?
It’s annoying how often political comics aren’t funny at all. They’re just bile. I guess some people find it affirming? I always just roll my eyes when I see this stuff, even when I agree with the message.
Probius answered your question for me
