I’m not saying it will never happen but just wait and see where we are in like 5 years. People are acting like they’ll be able to play the new Mario Kart on their computer this time next year

Who knows what kind of nasty DRM they’ve got running this time around even if people can find a way to hack the console and dump games

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    $500 for a console is one thing, but $80 for games when I just use Nintendo for Pokemon games? And Pokemon has honestly lost me. I even stopped giving a shit about my online storage box with shinies from 2010.

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    I agree for the most part, getting a cracked copy of a nintendo game still benefits nintendo (piracy has always benefited large publishers). Nintendo can easily create a tug of war situation with the emulator scene where firmware updates and game DRM will be a constant fixture.

    Switch 1 emulation was achieved because we got extremely lucky that the switch 1 had a hardware defect on launch day that allowed for jailbreaking. Usually jailbreaking a console is very difficult and requires a mixture of luck and extremely knowledgeable individuals willing to pour hundreds of hours and now that Nintendo has sent its copyright ninjas to copyright safe havens like Brazil I doubt that there’s any motivation to start cracking a new console anytime soon.

    Emulation projects are not free labor so you can crack the latest nintendo nostalgia slop.

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    I dunno, i personally don’t care about playing games the first day, haven’t in a very long time. 5 or more years is actually fine, there’s still a ton from their cracked consoles i haven’t played. If i wait long enough and the games are good enough i figger ill get to play the games eventually and if i don’t, i truly don’t care. I play games on my terms or i don’t play em, that’s my meta

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      I waited until last year to finally get a moddable switch. I’m personally fine with waiting a few years for a mod solution to appear. They want people to buy their drm box on hype and it’s rarely worth it until much later, anyways.

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      This looks like the most different Mario Kart has ever been. Not worth 90 bucks, but pretty darn different from 8 (oddly though, not as good looking)

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    IIRC the only reason a switch emulator appeared so soon after launch was because the creator of the Citra 3DS emulator decided to go for it. Now that nintendo has sent goons to the houses of all emulator devs there’s not as much institutional knowledge nor will for devs to stick their neck out as there was in 2017

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    On one hand they do seem to be taking extra DRM steps this time with the cartridges only containing a download key.

    On the other hand Nintendo also tend to make really trivial mistakes that blow their consoles wide open so my money is on some remote code execution via the stupid webcam accessory.

    Still not as bad as Sony and 3 generations of browser exploits in a row. Or tony hawks games

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      it’ll be a browser exploit. Either they’ll ship a full browser as an app or an embedded one for signing into public WiFi. Either way, it’ll be the first point of entry while other reverse engineering shit gets figured out. Might not give access to encryption keys or enable homebrew but these devices are always broken eventually.

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      I looked it up and apparently there has been no new crack of a Denuvo game in over a year. The strategy is to hope that it gets removed later and then cracked or that a game is on GamePass. If Denuvo’s license fees were lower or other DRM catches up piracy would be limited to old games and publishers/devs that don’t do DRM for internet cred

      Doesn’t stop people from acting like it’s 2010

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      There a sense of denial from people treating this as their biggest problem this week. Spending power is about to crater with decades of economic development upended. We’re the verge of either truly reactionary or revolutionary conditions. It’s probably going to the former of course because people are still livid about consumer issues and see so much wall steet bets shit about shorting Nintendo like it even matters.

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    yeah… emulators lag behind the consoles for many years… reversing tends to be a lot of painstaking work… and for people who will just turn around and whine about something not working or looking perfectly

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    Its not just the DRM, I imagine the architecture of switch2 is pretty similar to the original, with this being a spec bump and some new joycons. I’d be surprised if Yuzu wouldn’t have been able to play these games inside 6 months. That’s why they made moves to shut them down

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    In order to justify a $500 console they’ll have to give it more than just Youtube and Hulu+ for entertainment apps this time around - If not they’re shooting themselves in the foot.

    Even then they’ll have to implement Webkit just for Wifi sign in pages, so someone will eventually find a way to exploit some browser engine bug into full blown arbitrary code execution. I give it a year before PoC game cracks and basic emulation and 2 before commercial launch games are at least playable on high end systems.