• Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works
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    I’m all in for Trump randomly deporting immigrant citizens, sending a mob at the capitol, breaking the lives of millions of the minorities and the poorest, being best friend with a pedophile, insulting our allies and threatening annexion of other coutries, but crashing The Market??? That’s not ok. He’s suppose to help ME make money by exploiting others, if I have to lose money it’s not fair!! ------- What a stupid broken evil country.

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        That’s the conservative MO, in my experience. Don’t care until it personally affects them. That’s why they’ll beat their chests about the sanctity of marriage, but get divorced. Or talk about protecting life, until their mistress needs an abortion.

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        so many people literally either have no clue about what his actual policies are, are have been so indoctrinated by our shitty schooling that their view of the world is incredibly warped

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        I mean true but also even people who have a shred of empathy don’t always show it until they get a firsthand story. Partially human nature, but yes mostly dog shit moral philosophy giving them an excuse to not care about others.

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        Sure, but a mindset change has to start somewhere. A wild thought, but maybe they’ll invest time, if only a little, in the other side and slowly but surely realize how screwed up they used to think?

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      “Numerous impeachments? That’s fine.
      Convicted of numerous felonies? No that’s fine, lol.
      Adjudicated rapist? That’s fine as well, she was probably asking for it, women amirite!!.
      Six bankruptcies and multiple failed businesses, you say? Yeah that’s also fine because it was the other people and not him.
      Proven record of scams, even on charities? No, that’s just good business.”

      “Wait, he’s messing with my money now? This is intolerable, this is disgusting. How unfair, oh woe is me!!!”

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      Yeah, this guy’s not redeemed. The last and worst thing a MAGAt can do is take off their fucking red hat and put on a blue one like nothing they did happened.

      Fuck that. Carve “MAGA” into this douche’s forehead and then he can rejoin sane society.

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          Because the problem isn’t gone. Their opinions haven’t changed, they are just finally seeing personal impact from them. These people are going to fall for the same stupid shit another Trumpalike touts in 2032. They need intensive reeducation, not to be welcomed and treated like nothing happened.

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            They need intensive reeducation

            That’s not going to happen.

            Maybe this gatekeeping is why Trump won in the first place. The right approach, IMO, is to meet people where they are and convince them to join your side based on policies they support.

            Harris should have been railing against tariffs, throwing Biden under the bus because he, too, continued and expanded tariffs. She should have explained the consequences for tariffs and why free trade is good for everyone. Conservatives like the idea of fewer restrictions, so appeal to that.

            But no, she muttered something about “price gouging” with no real plan to fix it. She said she’d largely keep doing what Biden did, when people obviously wanted change. She didn’t even try to meet those concerns, her campaign was basically, “I’m not Trump,” which almost worked until she made it clear that she’s basically just Biden 2.0, but from a different demographic.

            Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. Court people based on common ground instead of purity tests.

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              She had a plan to fix the price gouging though. Fucking hell, I agree with the rest of your post but seeing people continue to lie about her campaign is so frustrating

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                Sort of? But “price gouging” isn’t the issue at all, the issue is inflation and lack of supply. If you limit how a company can charge for an in-demand product (say, eggs), there’s much less incentive to find more supply (say, imports from another country). It’s nonsensical.

                But I don’t think that’s why she lost. I think she lost because she said in an interview that, given hindsight, she wouldn’t change anything if she were in power instead of Biden. That’s a giant slap in the face to the average voter who saw a ton of problems during his administration and want to see something change to address those problems.

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            It often takes a personal crisis to get people to doubt the cult/white supremacist group/multilevel marketing scheme they’ve been a part of for a long time

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      He’s not just friends with a pedo, court docs confirm he himself is a pedo.

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        It is no issue tho. From spending enough time on americanized internet i have come to the conclusion that everyone in the U.S. is more or less secretly a pedophile.

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      to be fair i think this is pretty par for the course for people in general. not caring until things affect you directly.

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      Yes, but it still doesn’t explain why they vote GOP. Dems have an economic record of faster growth, lower unemployment, better stock market performance etc, and still they vote GOP.

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        From a non-us perspective, I would tend to call it the Fox Effect. Capitalist brainwashing of the under-educated, who lack the basic capacities of intellectual self-defense. When you control all the media you can make people believe that a black president asking for dijon mustard on a burger is a big deal, while a rich white president being a convicted rapist and best friend with the most notorious pedophile of the past 50 years is anecdotal, or fake, or a witch hunt, or “look, the woke are transitioning your kids”. Americans have been brainwashed to believe they the strongest, toughest, smartest people and that it’s practically in their genetic so they dont need to educate themselves. Hopefuly to good thing of pedo-don being president is that it will lead to the downfall of the US.

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        Dems have an economic record of faster growth, lower unemployment, better stock market performance etc

        You think their media tells them that?

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      You’re just now realizing people are selfish assholes? 2016 wasn’t proof enough somehow?

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      Yes…

      But what this shows is that even for those who want an evil system that benefits them, this administration is a disaster. There’s literally nothing good about it, even for greedy, evil capitalists.

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      This country and a lot of the world has a me first mentality. A lot of people can look past some really fucked up shit if it’s not directly causing them harm.