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    Lmao none of them will remember that 3 years from now when Trump or his successor run on a platform of “DEMOCRATS HAVE LOOSED THE SEWER MUTANTS ON US, WE NEVER HAD SEWER MUTANTS BEFORE SOROS FINANCED THEM. I BOLTED DOWN ALL THE MANHOLES IN NEW YORK. WHAT HAS OBAMA EVER DONE AGAINST SEWER MUTANTS?”

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    Yet for some reason they will never lose enough support to be ousted.

    We all know what it’s going to take to remove them.

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    Typical conservative. They don’t care until it affects them directly. Enjoy suffering the consequences of your choices dipshit.

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    I’m all in for Trump randomly deporting immigrant citizens, sending a mob at the capitol, breaking the lives of millions of the minorities and the poorest, being best friend with a pedophile, insulting our allies and threatening annexion of other coutries, but crashing The Market??? That’s not ok. He’s suppose to help ME make money by exploiting others, if I have to lose money it’s not fair!! ------- What a stupid broken evil country.

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        That’s the conservative MO, in my experience. Don’t care until it personally affects them. That’s why they’ll beat their chests about the sanctity of marriage, but get divorced. Or talk about protecting life, until their mistress needs an abortion.

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        so many people literally either have no clue about what his actual policies are, are have been so indoctrinated by our shitty schooling that their view of the world is incredibly warped

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        Sure, but a mindset change has to start somewhere. A wild thought, but maybe they’ll invest time, if only a little, in the other side and slowly but surely realize how screwed up they used to think?

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        I mean true but also even people who have a shred of empathy don’t always show it until they get a firsthand story. Partially human nature, but yes mostly dog shit moral philosophy giving them an excuse to not care about others.

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      “Numerous impeachments? That’s fine.
      Convicted of numerous felonies? No that’s fine, lol.
      Adjudicated rapist? That’s fine as well, she was probably asking for it, women amirite!!.
      Six bankruptcies and multiple failed businesses, you say? Yeah that’s also fine because it was the other people and not him.
      Proven record of scams, even on charities? No, that’s just good business.”

      “Wait, he’s messing with my money now? This is intolerable, this is disgusting. How unfair, oh woe is me!!!”

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      Yeah, this guy’s not redeemed. The last and worst thing a MAGAt can do is take off their fucking red hat and put on a blue one like nothing they did happened.

      Fuck that. Carve “MAGA” into this douche’s forehead and then he can rejoin sane society.

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          Because the problem isn’t gone. Their opinions haven’t changed, they are just finally seeing personal impact from them. These people are going to fall for the same stupid shit another Trumpalike touts in 2032. They need intensive reeducation, not to be welcomed and treated like nothing happened.

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            They need intensive reeducation

            That’s not going to happen.

            Maybe this gatekeeping is why Trump won in the first place. The right approach, IMO, is to meet people where they are and convince them to join your side based on policies they support.

            Harris should have been railing against tariffs, throwing Biden under the bus because he, too, continued and expanded tariffs. She should have explained the consequences for tariffs and why free trade is good for everyone. Conservatives like the idea of fewer restrictions, so appeal to that.

            But no, she muttered something about “price gouging” with no real plan to fix it. She said she’d largely keep doing what Biden did, when people obviously wanted change. She didn’t even try to meet those concerns, her campaign was basically, “I’m not Trump,” which almost worked until she made it clear that she’s basically just Biden 2.0, but from a different demographic.

            Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. Court people based on common ground instead of purity tests.

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              She had a plan to fix the price gouging though. Fucking hell, I agree with the rest of your post but seeing people continue to lie about her campaign is so frustrating

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                Sort of? But “price gouging” isn’t the issue at all, the issue is inflation and lack of supply. If you limit how a company can charge for an in-demand product (say, eggs), there’s much less incentive to find more supply (say, imports from another country). It’s nonsensical.

                But I don’t think that’s why she lost. I think she lost because she said in an interview that, given hindsight, she wouldn’t change anything if she were in power instead of Biden. That’s a giant slap in the face to the average voter who saw a ton of problems during his administration and want to see something change to address those problems.

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            It often takes a personal crisis to get people to doubt the cult/white supremacist group/multilevel marketing scheme they’ve been a part of for a long time

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      He’s not just friends with a pedo, court docs confirm he himself is a pedo.

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        It is no issue tho. From spending enough time on americanized internet i have come to the conclusion that everyone in the U.S. is more or less secretly a pedophile.

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      Yes, but it still doesn’t explain why they vote GOP. Dems have an economic record of faster growth, lower unemployment, better stock market performance etc, and still they vote GOP.

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        From a non-us perspective, I would tend to call it the Fox Effect. Capitalist brainwashing of the under-educated, who lack the basic capacities of intellectual self-defense. When you control all the media you can make people believe that a black president asking for dijon mustard on a burger is a big deal, while a rich white president being a convicted rapist and best friend with the most notorious pedophile of the past 50 years is anecdotal, or fake, or a witch hunt, or “look, the woke are transitioning your kids”. Americans have been brainwashed to believe they the strongest, toughest, smartest people and that it’s practically in their genetic so they dont need to educate themselves. Hopefuly to good thing of pedo-don being president is that it will lead to the downfall of the US.

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        Dems have an economic record of faster growth, lower unemployment, better stock market performance etc

        You think their media tells them that?

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      to be fair i think this is pretty par for the course for people in general. not caring until things affect you directly.

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      You’re just now realizing people are selfish assholes? 2016 wasn’t proof enough somehow?

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      Yes…

      But what this shows is that even for those who want an evil system that benefits them, this administration is a disaster. There’s literally nothing good about it, even for greedy, evil capitalists.

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      This country and a lot of the world has a me first mentality. A lot of people can look past some really fucked up shit if it’s not directly causing them harm.

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    It’s too late. Can’t trust him again.

    If only there were signs before hand. 🙄

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        I had this exact conversation with my MIL just yesterday. She voted for him, and she hit me with “This is so unexpected”. I told her no, no it wasn’t, everyone who was paying attention saw this coming a mile away, nothing could be more predictable.

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            She is an immigrant and not particularly well informed politically. I went on to explain the predictable cycle of Republican presidents leading to market crashes which the wealthy use to buy up assets for cheap, and indicated to Project 2025 which was published well in advance of the election. She seemed to respond as if I had given her valid information that she lacked before (which wasn’t really the case, we’d talked about this well before November). But she didn’t really have any pushback or response, she mostly seemed quiet and contemplative.

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              Nevermind the fact the he straight campaigned of levying tariffs on everyone, as well as crashing the economy to “correct” it. I’ve brought it up to a few trumpets over the weekend and they just keep saying how they thought he was joking to own the libs?!???

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                If I could strike any phrase from the human lexicon, it would be ”owning the libs” or any variation with similar meaning and/or intent.

                Yeah we get it, you’re so petty that you don’t give a goddamned what happens to anyone (including yourselves), so long as you get to sit on your high horse laughing like Nelson from The Simpsons. Congrats. Now go away.

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    The fact that they are still good friends with someone that actively claims(/claimed) to have supported Trump is damning for that tweetist.

    And what am I supposed to take away from this? Cool, they’re fine with racism and sexism but the economy is sancrosanct. Who is this appealing to/performing for?

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      One of the pillars that the republicans keep claiming is that they will sell everyone out for the sake of businesses, and therefore, obviously, they will make the numbers go up better than those democrats that will sap money out of the economy to pay for useless stuff like basic human needs to those that need it.

      Now you have a republican president who has:

      • Not cut any taxes
      • Imposed way more taxes
      • Tanked the markets
      • Tanked so many government benefits

      It was already provably false (going back 30 years, the only prolonged ‘numbers go down’ have been both of Bush Jr’s terms and Trump’s second term), the best republican term was Trump’s first and it’s no better than any democrat term for the past 30 years.

      So there are some people who are either fine with the racism and sexism (or don’t believe/in denial about that as made up) for the sake of better personal financial fortune, and democrats have never convinced those folks that republicans actually don’t have any track record to support that superstition. Trump has at least proven that he isn’t good, and worse he is allowed to unilaterally act by a broader party that is afraid to conflict him.

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    Yeah… Call me in 4 years when they vote republican again because it’s not trump on the ballot and something something evil Democrats. I’d bet the same people saying this in 2025 were saying something similar when trump caused the COVID crash by doing fuck all to prevent the spread.

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      You’re right because the media has been captured by the right wing. And already to vote for Trump or believe in Elon means there’s something peasant brain about you.

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    But also, fuck these people. Didn’t matter that innocent citizens with no charges are getting black bagged and tossed in cells. Didn’t matter families were getting ripped apart and deported. Didn’t matter that the bigotry against trans people has ramped up to being codified in congressional fucking rules levels. No it took an economic nightmare scenario personally affecting the livelihoods of these people for them to wake up AT ALL. Like fine, welcome to the fucking real world. You’re still a piece of shit in my eyes now start making better fucking choices, moron.

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      100%. The world has just done nothing but coddle these morons and their feelings for so long it’s about time we start telling them that they’re not getting a gold star for doing the bare minimum after the damage has already been done.

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      Well most of that stuff was happening under genocide joe too. And kamalacaust promised to continue. Didn’t matter to the libs. They attack people for pointing this out.

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      I mean yeah, on one hand wtf did he expect? Of course Trump was going to do stupid shit. The man is incredibly stupid.

      On the other hand, Trump is also very cruel and this is incredibly important. It’s not funny.

      Every Republican that turns against him makes the insane ideas a little less likely to go through. Less likely to try for a 3rd term, less likely to commit fully to the El Salvador concentration camp ambitions, less likely to disappear as many American citizens without trial, less likely to do a bunch of truly horribly gruesome and catastrophic shit.

      You won’t win by mocking them for joining you. You’re being more stupid than you can afford to be in these circumstances.

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        You are right, mocking someone for being wrong isn’t going to make them turn sides. As shitty as they might be right now, you need to treat his voters as children who misbehave. Mocking and punishing is not the way. The problem is internet and social networks don’t function that way, they favor divide, people like mocking 47 as muck as the other side likes to glorify him.

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          you need to treat his voters as children who misbehave.

          Oh dear, you’ve learnt nothing either.

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              Not OP but I’d wager he will say that you shouldn’t treat them like kids, that’s already looking down on them. Just because they got duped repeatedly doesn’t mean we shouldn’t lose our ability to empathize. They just started their introspective, assist it as much as you can and you can make them go from conservative to progressive even. The movement needs all the pebbles it can get.

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                Yeah. There’s also the fact that they can read our fucking comments and know exactly what we think of them. If we think we’re belittling them privately and manipulating them elegantly; We aren’t.

                I’ll also say this: Trump vs. Kamala should’ve been an easy win for Kamala. Y’all fucked up.

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                I guess my thoughts got lost in translation since I’m not a native speaker, that’s what i was thinking too. Btw, i don’t look kids from above, i see them as overly emotional, easily distracted, can’t take care of themselves, but always full of potential.