Your totally right. It’s OK to support genocide because the “good” party (that builds the infrastructure for facism, and doesn’t fight against it) is such a better option. I mean, how can people not be supportive of that?
I didn’t “let” Trump win, I voted against him. The Democrats handed the election to him because they valued genocide and money more than they valued fighting fascism. The Democrats openly bombed the shit out of kids world-wide. Do you think they were happy with you when Biden was bombing them? or do you think they cursed as they were dying?
They did tho. Trump is one of, if not the least popular president we’ve ever had. Are you telling me that the Democrat’s really tried their best, and couldn’t find anyone that was more likeable than him?
I did vote against Trump, but I also voted against Harris. I did that because, unlike you, I didn’t want genocide or fascism.
Are you telling me that the Democrat’s really tried their best
We’re telling you Republicans ran the most propagandized campaign in American history and Americans were too stupid to see through it. This is far more about Americans being stupid and easily manipulated than it is about Democrats running a bad campaign.
Yes, Sanders is a great example. The guy that the DNC literally had to put their finger on the scale to overcome. The guy that polled better than Trump in red states.
I have lived all over the country: The coasts, the middle, the south. I know plenty of people in red states that don’t like Trump, but don’t see the Democrats putting out a candidate that they like. Maybe if the Democrats tried to differentiate themselves from Trump, instead of chasing his policies, they’d do better.
I did vote against Trump, but I also voted against Harris. I did that because, unlike you, I didn’t want genocide or fascism.
No, you did not. You engaged in a purely performative action with no statistical chance of a positive outcome against fascism or genocide, so that you could brag about your moral purity while offering up the rest of us to fascists, including your SO, apparently, to feed your ego.
You can lie to others and you can lie to yourself but, the math doesn’t lie. FPTP system with established parties (one of them openly fascist, that already attempted a coup) meant that there were, mathematically, two options (not a false dichotomy but a real one): voting for a candidate with a statistical chance of winning against the fascists, or letting fascists win. You chose the latter and, if we survive this, that’s something that you’ll have to come to terms with and take responsibility for.
The math also doesn’t lie about 3rd parties: If we had all voted for Harris (and that’s a big if), the Dems still wouldn’t have won. The math also doesn’t lie about the Dems: They ran two terrible campaigns, that even Democratic voters stayed home on, rather than support. A bunch of people who voted for Biden ended up voting for Trump in this election. That’s on the Dem leadership.
I completely own up to my vote, and it’s consequences. I wish the Dems would do the same.
I am indeed happy that I didn’t “support genocide”. But no, it didn’t make the world a better place. Are you happy that you supported genocide? Did that make the world a better place?
Funnily enough your moral high grounding resulted in school lunch programs being discontinued. So good job now we have a genocide AND more hungry kids domestically
Homie, please stop arguing with this person. You’re not doing yourself any favors and giving them what they want.
Like maga idiots, they get off knowing they upset you. And you deserve better, if only as an obligation to yourself. Plus you are giving them a stage to preach their dumbassery.
Very fair. But this isn’t the venue. This is the leftmost (or at least socially equitable social media site) I’ve witnessed so far in my in my fiftyish years. But prioritize yourself, without victimizing others(of which the person you’re argue with, is not a victim(to be clear))
Funnily enough, the DNC running unpopular candidates on unpopular policies resulted in school lunch programs being discontinued. So good job now we have a genocide AND more hungry kids domestically.
Maybe the DNC should put out candidates and policies that people want, instead of running Republican-light candidates.
Or… It could be placed on the supposedly opposition party, who ran unpopular candidates on unpopular platforms. Maybe they should have tried to fight against Trump, instead of trying to co-opt his policies.
You made a choice and that made kids hungry. Own up to you. You can justify it however you want. You can use whatever prose and logic you wish, but you and many others like you bear that responsibility.
The dems can be a whole hell of a lot better, and so can you. I’m sorry you found neither shool lunch programs for hungry kids and abortion rights for women an appealing policy of their platform
You made a choice for Genocide, own up to you. I find it interesting that you are mad at me, but not willing to own up to your own decisions.
I wanted Democrats to solidify those programs so that they couldn’t be taken away, but the Democrats didn’t want to so that they could dangle them in front of voters every election cycle. Maybe if we had a serious party we wouldn’t be in this mess.
But I don’t know why you are so angry. You got to keep the genocide, the child-bombings, the wars, the open corruption, and the attacks against the working class that you wanted.
Frankly I don’t care how you try to justify it. Project 2025 was not a secret. Now my sister lives in fear of how she’ll make ends meet and provide Healthcare for my niece. And I am looking at being unemployed all due to Trump’s policies.
Your logic doesn’t change Trump’s actions nor does it change the absolute devastation facing me and my family.
These plans were not a secret, and instead of casting a vote for less suffering you stayed home. Ensuring the suffering of not only people here, but an accelerated genocide.
But hey at least you think you have the moral high ground. Must be nice having the privilege to both judge and not feel the effects of Trump’s policies at home. Daddy leave you an emerald mine too?
Well, you’re clearly wrong on multiple points here. I knew about 2025, and never claimed ignorance of it. I live in fear of being taken away to a camp, and am also looking at unemployment. I have multiple health problems that are going to haunt me for the rest of my life because I can’t get them fixed because of Trump. I’m terrified that my SO is going to be dragged out of our home.
And I didn’t stay home, I voted against genocde and fascism. The people you show allegience to support both the genocide, and the facists. I don’t know why you keep defending them, when they are the ones that pushed Trump into office the first time, and have since been giving half-assed attempts to fight him, when they aren’t openly supporting him. You can be mad at me for not wanting fascism or genocide, but I find it telling that you’d rather be mad at me, than be mad at the genocidists or the fascists supporters.
Your totally right. It’s OK to support genocide because the “good” party (that builds the infrastructure for facism, and doesn’t fight against it) is such a better option. I mean, how can people not be supportive of that?
/s
You killed 10 Gazas by letting trump win.
In opposing 1 genocide you chose 10 more, and threw away any hope to resist them.
So many dying kids curse you right now.
I didn’t “let” Trump win, I voted against him. The Democrats handed the election to him because they valued genocide and money more than they valued fighting fascism. The Democrats openly bombed the shit out of kids world-wide. Do you think they were happy with you when Biden was bombing them? or do you think they cursed as they were dying?
They didn’t hand shit.
Nobody should have voted FOR Harris.
Everyone should have voted AGAINST Trump.
It’s childish to even have this discussion.
If the dems had literally run Mitt Romney I would have voted for him gladly.
Becauae, unlike you, I don’t want MORE genocide, and Trump is nothing if not openly pro-genocide.
They did tho. Trump is one of, if not the least popular president we’ve ever had. Are you telling me that the Democrat’s really tried their best, and couldn’t find anyone that was more likeable than him?
I did vote against Trump, but I also voted against Harris. I did that because, unlike you, I didn’t want genocide or fascism.
We’re telling you Republicans ran the most propagandized campaign in American history and Americans were too stupid to see through it. This is far more about Americans being stupid and easily manipulated than it is about Democrats running a bad campaign.
https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/super-tuesday/
Sanders got… 1/3 bidens vote?
What magic candidate do you think could have done so much better?
You live so deep up your own ass on the left you don’t understand how stubbornly conservative much of the country is.
That’s why Biden was a good candidate, old and white, mildly racist, he literally aligned with the majority of this worthless trash country.
I’m not white, and I suspect you haven’t lived outside of the coasts, large parts of this country are almost Afghanistan.
Yes, Sanders is a great example. The guy that the DNC literally had to put their finger on the scale to overcome. The guy that polled better than Trump in red states.
I have lived all over the country: The coasts, the middle, the south. I know plenty of people in red states that don’t like Trump, but don’t see the Democrats putting out a candidate that they like. Maybe if the Democrats tried to differentiate themselves from Trump, instead of chasing his policies, they’d do better.
No, you did not. You engaged in a purely performative action with no statistical chance of a positive outcome against fascism or genocide, so that you could brag about your moral purity while offering up the rest of us to fascists, including your SO, apparently, to feed your ego.
You can lie to others and you can lie to yourself but, the math doesn’t lie. FPTP system with established parties (one of them openly fascist, that already attempted a coup) meant that there were, mathematically, two options (not a false dichotomy but a real one): voting for a candidate with a statistical chance of winning against the fascists, or letting fascists win. You chose the latter and, if we survive this, that’s something that you’ll have to come to terms with and take responsibility for.
The math also doesn’t lie about 3rd parties: If we had all voted for Harris (and that’s a big if), the Dems still wouldn’t have won. The math also doesn’t lie about the Dems: They ran two terrible campaigns, that even Democratic voters stayed home on, rather than support. A bunch of people who voted for Biden ended up voting for Trump in this election. That’s on the Dem leadership.
I completely own up to my vote, and it’s consequences. I wish the Dems would do the same.
Are you happy you didn’t “support genocide”? Did it make the world a better place?
I am indeed happy that I didn’t “support genocide”. But no, it didn’t make the world a better place. Are you happy that you supported genocide? Did that make the world a better place?
The fact that you think people who supported Democrats supported genocide is infantile and shows that you are arguing in bad faith.
Funnily enough your moral high grounding resulted in school lunch programs being discontinued. So good job now we have a genocide AND more hungry kids domestically
Homie, please stop arguing with this person. You’re not doing yourself any favors and giving them what they want.
Like maga idiots, they get off knowing they upset you. And you deserve better, if only as an obligation to yourself. Plus you are giving them a stage to preach their dumbassery.
Good looking out for people.
Just paying it forward from people who do the same for me when I get goaded into similar situations.
I argue with the hope of convincing those on the fence reading it. Appreciate the looking out though. You are right this person won’t be convinced
Very fair. But this isn’t the venue. This is the leftmost (or at least socially equitable social media site) I’ve witnessed so far in my in my fiftyish years. But prioritize yourself, without victimizing others(of which the person you’re argue with, is not a victim(to be clear))
Funnily enough, the DNC running unpopular candidates on unpopular policies resulted in school lunch programs being discontinued. So good job now we have a genocide AND more hungry kids domestically.
Maybe the DNC should put out candidates and policies that people want, instead of running Republican-light candidates.
Lol. Congrats. You have successfully twisted yourself into a pretzel to avoid placing blame where it belongs. On the American electorate.
Or… It could be placed on the supposedly opposition party, who ran unpopular candidates on unpopular platforms. Maybe they should have tried to fight against Trump, instead of trying to co-opt his policies.
You made a choice and that made kids hungry. Own up to you. You can justify it however you want. You can use whatever prose and logic you wish, but you and many others like you bear that responsibility.
The dems can be a whole hell of a lot better, and so can you. I’m sorry you found neither shool lunch programs for hungry kids and abortion rights for women an appealing policy of their platform
You made a choice for Genocide, own up to you. I find it interesting that you are mad at me, but not willing to own up to your own decisions.
I wanted Democrats to solidify those programs so that they couldn’t be taken away, but the Democrats didn’t want to so that they could dangle them in front of voters every election cycle. Maybe if we had a serious party we wouldn’t be in this mess.
But I don’t know why you are so angry. You got to keep the genocide, the child-bombings, the wars, the open corruption, and the attacks against the working class that you wanted.
Frankly I don’t care how you try to justify it. Project 2025 was not a secret. Now my sister lives in fear of how she’ll make ends meet and provide Healthcare for my niece. And I am looking at being unemployed all due to Trump’s policies.
Your logic doesn’t change Trump’s actions nor does it change the absolute devastation facing me and my family.
These plans were not a secret, and instead of casting a vote for less suffering you stayed home. Ensuring the suffering of not only people here, but an accelerated genocide.
But hey at least you think you have the moral high ground. Must be nice having the privilege to both judge and not feel the effects of Trump’s policies at home. Daddy leave you an emerald mine too?
No you don’t understand. We should let Trump win because Biden let Trump win. Run on a platform of spite!
Well, you’re clearly wrong on multiple points here. I knew about 2025, and never claimed ignorance of it. I live in fear of being taken away to a camp, and am also looking at unemployment. I have multiple health problems that are going to haunt me for the rest of my life because I can’t get them fixed because of Trump. I’m terrified that my SO is going to be dragged out of our home.
And I didn’t stay home, I voted against genocde and fascism. The people you show allegience to support both the genocide, and the facists. I don’t know why you keep defending them, when they are the ones that pushed Trump into office the first time, and have since been giving half-assed attempts to fight him, when they aren’t openly supporting him. You can be mad at me for not wanting fascism or genocide, but I find it telling that you’d rather be mad at me, than be mad at the genocidists or the fascists supporters.