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veganbtw@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 5 months ago

20% of the worlds prison population

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20% of the worlds prison population

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    The rest are in undeclared labor camps

    Goes for both

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      The rest are in undeclared labor camps

      Goes for both

      US labor camps are not undeclared (though extraterritorial black sites are). They’re called prisons, and the labor is slave labor, thanks to the 13th amendment.

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          but it is worth noting that China does utilize administrative detention

          Isn’t that the same as Jails in the US which is separate from prison statistics?

          Jail is where you go for the night when arrested for disorderly conduct and are released the next day.

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              Administrative detentions can be longer. On paper they can hold you about a month, but it can be longer than that with a judge’s signoff if they have proof of a crime.

              And in the US, jail can be up to just short of a year.

              This is typically where the police try to get you to confess to something and drag it out as long and uncomfortably as possible until you do, after which you either get to go free (though you end up on a list for a long time) or you may go to a “black jail”/黑監獄 which is a sort of under-the-table prison.

              The terms of release can also sometimes require completion of a rehabilitation program, which is often the voluntary alternative to prison, or getting transferred to a short stay detention center for a few months to perform community service.

              So pretty similar to the US.

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                And in the US, jail can be up to just short of a year.

                I’d like to point out, ‘proper’ jail, for misdemeanor level offenses, is ‘up to a year,’ but I personally know individuals who have been in jail (where people awaiting trial stay, in addition to people convicted of misdemeanors) for over three years now, still waiting on their trial.

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                That meme is working extra hard today but it’s just so perfect for the occasion.

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            Jail is usually for holding during due process and for sentences up to a year. Prison is generally for sentences longer than a year.

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              https://eji.org/news/brothers-jailed-8-years-for-refusing-to-leave-their-land/

              Not always.

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          Xinjiang reeducation camps were closed around 2022 though?

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      Source: The US propaganda you received and believe uncritically.

      What’s next, you explaining their inherent need to lie because of their race?

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      The reeducation camps closed years ago. Here you have a western source claiming so:

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/23/china-xinjiang-crackdown-uyghurs-surveillance/

      Surely a champion of Uyghur rights would be aware of this already?

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