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    You could have ended up on the one with the 84-hour workweek (12 hours a day, no day off) and with child labor… you know… the “good ole days” republicans want to take you back to by hook and by crook, and which the people of all ages have enabled, the old by batshit mental illness, the young by electoral defensive indifference. Soon enough you won’t have time to navel gaze about how bad 40 is.

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        You have a three-body problem with 2 stars orbiting eachother being insufficient?

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        I wonder how seasons and days would work? Would the suns be up at different times (sun 1 rises at 3 in the morning and sets at noon, sun 2 rises at 8 in the morning and sets at 1 in the afternoon, sun 3 rises at noon and sets at midnight?) or would they rise and set at the same time?

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          Three star solar systems aren’t stable if they are the same size or they are on similar scale distances from each other meaning they pull on each other with the same forces no matter their size. They are chaotic and there is no Goldilocks zone around the stars.

          The only 3 star solar system with stable planetary orbits are either a stable binary star in the center with a third smaller sun orbiting around the binary star from far away. Or a big sun in the center and two smaller suns that are orbiting from far away.

          So if you are on a planet in a stable three stars solar system that is in the Goldilocks zone you’d probably have normal sunset sunrises either with one or two suns. But you’d see a big star or two in the night sky passing on certain days, you’d probably see the star during the day as well. Like you see the moon on certain days during the day.

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          Depends on the setup. For a binary system, there’s really only two setups. One with two stars close together, and the planet you’re on orbiting the center of mass of the two stars. Tatooine from Star Wars is like this. So it would be mostly like Earth, just with two glowing orbs in the sky next to each other during the day instead of just one glowing orb.

          The other configuration would be two stars further apart, and the planet orbiting one of them. For example if one of the gas giants in our solar system was heavy enough to start nuclear fusion. Such as what happened to Jupiter in the 2001 universe (Jupiter actually gets turned into a star in the sequel, 2010). Now, the outer star will revolve around the main star, but much slower than the inner planet revolves the main star. So like Jupiter it will rise and set at approximately the same time tomorrow as it does today. But at least as far as Earth and Jupiter goes, the outer star (Jupiter) will rise about 3-4 minutes earlier tomorrow, and then 3-4 minutes earlier the day after tomorrow, etc., which means over roughly a year it will drift from being in sync with the main star, to being completely out of sync with the main star, and everything in between in terms of outer star sunrise and outer star sunset. Since Jupiter takes about 12 years to go around the Sun, it will actually take about 13 months on Earth for the cycle to repeat.

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      I’m confused, what about this post makes it about USA? Surely (inb4 don’t call me Shirley) there must be several countries with 40 hours work week.

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        Netherlands 36 hours is full time, i work 4x9 hours, so basically a 4 day workweek, for about 20 years now, used to work 38 and got paid extra for the effort. But soon found out more free time is priceless.

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        In Europe they don’t count their lunch breaks as hours worked. That’s why the number is lower. If counted the European way then 09:00 to 17:00 Monday to Friday is actually 35 hours a week.

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          Universally? That’s awesome! I know that so.e Nordic countries and been running 32 hour tests but I didn’t know there was anything official in place. Do they just work 2 hours less one day a week?

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            Probably. Here in spain public workers have 35 hours work week and global 37,5 is being introduced. For this we usually take off half an hour or an entire hour each day.

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      If counted by European standards, the US has a 35-hour work week. Americans are counting their five one-hour lunch breaks to arrive at the “office worker” schedule of 40 hours a week, 09:00 to 17:00 Monday to Friday with a lunch break at 12:00 to 13:00

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        Many, if not most, Americans are probably not being paid for that lunch break, and are in fact working 0800 to 1700 or something along those lines for an actual 40 hours. That’s how it was for me the last regular “9-5” that I had 10 years ago, and I’m pretty sure things haven’t gotten better since then.

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    How do you know those other planets don’t all have 80-100 hour weeks? Maybe aliens are all more like ants or bees and just work non-stop. The reason they never stop here or answer our calls is because they’re always at work. 🤷‍♂️

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      I wonder if ants and bees get flooded with endorphins when they’re endlessly working so 80-100 hour weeks would be just fine for them. We’re apes, we’re supposed to eat berries and weird mushrooms and procreate in the forest, we’re not designed to work any harder than we have to to do those two things.

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      it could also just be that their planet takes 3 years to orbit their sun and a day lasts 2 weeks, so the workweek could be like 560 hours over there

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    It’s not a function of space, but of time. Work load used to be significantly less in the medieval ages.

    Modern work load is caused by progress and the high demand for human workforce that it brings with it.

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      Work load used to be significantly less in the medieval ages.

      And even less in hunting/gathering times (probably). All the ethnographies we have of (formerly) extant hunter/gatherers show them basically not even working a part-time job. The !Kung-san of southern Africa were recorded as putting in an average of 17 hours a week of food-related work - and this was in a much sparser environment than what our ancient ancestors existed in.

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      In most countries it’s a lot more. Throughout human history it has typically been a lot more.

      Getting the work day down to 8 hours required violent riots that resulted in bombs being thrown at the police and people being hanged after quick show trials. And even once the work day was reduced to 8 hours, it was a while before the work week was reduced to only 5 days. Interestingly, the US initially led the world in reducing the length of the work week. But, these days it has been completely captured by oligarchs and unions are the weakest of any country in the developed world, so it has fallen far behind on any kind of worker rights compared to the rest of the world.

      40 hours may feel like a lot, but throughout most of human history only working 40 hours was a privilege available only to the nobility. It’s possible to get the 40 hours reduced even further in the US, but it will probably once again require massive demonstrations, and it seems unlikely that it will happen without violence and death.

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    What do you mean I haven’t worked 40 hours a week for decades… I work 36 hours ( which is considered full time here) and I work for 4 days 9 hours a week, every Wednesday of.

    Or its made by an American thinking America is the whole planet… 😇

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      Americans count their lunch breaks as hours worked. The typical “office worker” schedule is 09:00 to 17:00 Monday to Friday with a one hour lunch break from 12:00 to 13:00. This is 8 hours a day or 40 hours a week, but if you are not counting lunch breaks then it is 35 hours a week of actual “work”.

      Or this comment is made by a European who wants to just diss Americans without realising this situation is largely the same in both places… 😇

      Edit: Since there appears to be some confusion here, if a worker had a working schedule of 09:00 to 17:00 Monday to Friday with a one hour lunch break from 12:00 to 13:00, and you asked a European and an American how many hours a week this person works, the American would say 40 but the European would say 35.

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        Every salary job I’ve worked is 8 hours a day of work with a 1 hour unpaid lunch. So it’s something like 08:00-17:00 or 09:00-18:00 as your work hours. That’s what is called 40 hours a week around here. You could consider that 45 hours a week. As lunch is unpaid that’s considered your time to do whatever you want including leaving the job site for that hour.

        Some shift-work places will do something like 09:00 to 17:00 with a paid 30 minute lunch. Since lunch is paid time, they can require you stay on the job site. This is isn’t as common now as it used to be, but some places like factories that run a 24 hours a day schedule still do things like that.

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        I think this would be news to most Americans.

        Americans count their lunch breaks as hours worked. The typical “office worker” schedule is 09:00 to 17:00 Monday to Friday with a one hour lunch break from 12:00 to 13:00. This is 8 hours a day or 40 hours a week, but if you are not counting lunch breaks then it is 35 hours a week of actual “work”.

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          I am an American. When someone works the schedule indicated, I and my fellow countrymen would call it 40 hours a week, but a European would count it as 35 hours a week.

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            What field do you work in? If you’re salary, all bets are off. If you work for a factory, you’ll work 8-5 with an unpaid lunch.

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        Then I never talked irl to a typical American with typical working hours. Next time I talk to them I tell them they are doing it wrong…