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    At the first instant, my brain interpreted this as hinting that Carlson and Kid Rock had died and I was so pleasantly surprised.

    Fucking Mondays.

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      In this case there is action of a sort - the same gerrymandering that Texas is doing as a counterbalance. Whether that’s better than nothing is up for debate. I think probably but this whole saga just goes to show how completely unserious the American electorate is. So memes and trolling it is I guess.

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    Damn I hate Newsom but whoever his PR team is theyr fucking killing it with shit like this

    EDIT: Friggin autocorrect “new some” lol

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      People:

      left: Kid Rock
      center back: Hulk Hogan
      center: Gavin Newsom, Gov. of California
      right: Tucker Carlson

      Context: all except Newsom are Trump supporters (Hulk Hogan was, he died). Trump is known for posting stupid AI generated pictures in this style with people worshipping him. Newsome makes parodies of that.

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      The people standing are Kid Rock, Hulk Hogan, and Tucker Carlson. Not sure who’s sitting down, or who the twitter account is, or what the rest of the context is 😅

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    Why is fucking Newsom, the most neoliberal establishment motherfucker to ever walk the earth, the first Dem to figure out you can take these assholes down by just using their tactics against them?

    It’s like if Pelosi just walked down onto the the chamber floor and just started yelling “okay boomer” every time someone tried to talk, while going the fortnight dance.

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      The American left constantly punching left even when they’re losing is why the American right ate your lunch. You guys cannot abide allies or any other leftists that aren’t of the exact same stripe, while the right unified. As a non American you guys make our head hurt

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        Seriously. Half the comments in here are basically “How dare this guy be on our side! I will not abide anyone less pure than the Virgin Mary”. Maybe it’s just a bunch of right wing bots trying to sow division, but if so they are doing it remarkably well.

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        It’s more complicated than the mainstream narrative would let on. In the US the Democrats are a center right party, they’re more or less in agreement with what the previous republican administrations wanted, with the exception of a few gender related issues (LGBT, women’s rights, abortion). The new GOP is just much more extreme than usual. The Dems see this and are actively moving further right to try and get the leftover scraps of the extremists.

        For example, most of the infrastructure that trump is using to round up brown people is stuff that was built under biden/obama. Deep down both parties want this, they’re just using it to bash each other as a matter of tradition.

        The left is actually quite ideologically unified at this point, especially compared to historical trends. It’s better to think of the US as in a 3 party system where you have extreme right, center right, and a broad coalition of leftists, but all the infrastructure is only setup to allow two parties.

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        But… But… Biden and harris were complacent in the Gaza genocide and even though the opposition would be worse and do more damage elsewhere, I just couldn’t vote for imperfect. 🫠

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          I think what really caused Harris to lose was the constant everything is great and I won’t change anything messaging. People were struggling and she offered nothing.

          Trump did offer something, but anyone with a memory greater than 4 years should have remembered his promises are lies, but here we are.

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            Harris and Biden all thought facts would help. Facts are great for policy decisions, not great for convincing people to support you.

            If facts say that the economy is booming and everyone is off better however I don’t feel it, I don’t see it in my local community. Then fuck off with your facts.

            Trumpie understands this. Any good sales person will tell you feelings are what closes sales. Trumpie harped on everyone’s feelings. People felt like the economy was leaving them behind AGAIN. Trumpie speaks like the common person, he’s able to relate to people. This is how Trumpie cons people. I imagine if you ran an analysis on all of Trumpie’s campaign statements, you wouldn’t find specific numbers. General, vague numbers at best.

            It’s why Obama and Sanders can attract sell out crowds. Both of them know feelings are more important than facts.

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              This right here is another example of the issue. It’s not “facts” that the economy was good for the average citizen. Yes our economy was performing well, but our metrics are not designed to tell us how well people are affording rent or groceries. It’s designed to tell us how much is being produced. We can be more productive than ever, but that doesn’t matter if housing has never been more unaffordable for the average American.

              We measure the economy based on the needs of capital, not the workers.

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      I really can’t stand Newsom. The guy is some of the worst aspects of the Dem party (note I did not say “the left”) Virtually guarantees they’ll run him.

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      Because he’s also a narcissistic snake who has been self-interested and corrupt for years.

      Which sadly, is exactly what we need to oppose the narcissistic snakes in power right now. We’re just fortunate that he is finding success and support to his liking in being the opposition we wish we had.

      I support the tactic broadly, I hope the rest of the so-called Democrats pick it up and start mountain an actual “get in the dirty trenches” opposition that declaws Trump’s political capital.

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      I don’t know, I think Tim Waltz figured it out and then the Harris campaign shut him down. The whether or not it works or not I’m not sure. Certainly doesn’t look like anything’s been taken down.

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        TL;DR: calling fascists weird was and is EXTREMELY effective messaging and pivoting away from it was probably one of the top reasons for Trump being able to infest the white house again.

        I think Tim Waltz figured it out and then the Harris campaign shut him down

        100%. Without a shadow of a doubt. Never underestimate the ability of the DNC to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in order to please the owner donors and/or uphold arbitrary institutional norms.

        The whether or not it works or not I’m not sure.

        It ABSOLUTELY worked. Harris/Walz were far ahead in the polls while they were still calling weirdos weird and then they nosedived when they switched from that to the 1992 playbook.

        The Trump messaging works by convincing people that the fascists are the only normal ones/the in group in a world taken over by abnormal and immoral people of the out groups

        Even SUGGESTING that they might be just another out group rather than the only in group weakens the “everything our Dear Leaders say or do is correct because it’s against the weirdos” narrative and more importantly the feeling of belonging and of being on the right side of history that the leaders of the cult have instilled in the followers.

        Regular people have no problem being called weird (in fact, a lot of us actively celebrate our weirdness), but a fascist movement simply falls apart without the solid conviction that they’re the only sane and normal ones.

        This went a little longer than I intended, so I’ll add a TL;DR at the top lol

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          Regular people have no problem being called weird (in fact, a lot of us actively celebrate our weirdness), but a fascist movement simply falls apart without the solid conviction that they’re the only sane and normal ones.

          Somehow I had never made this connection until just now! It always struck me that just calling them “weird” seemed so effective, since it’s not even really an insult, but this makes complete sense.

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      Just give me a fucking fair primary, please. I’m going to lose my goddamn mind if they ram Newsom through like they did with Clinton and Biden.

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        Do they even need primaries at all anymore? We’ll just vote for whoever they select because it’ll be less damaging than the Republican.

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        It depends on how much contempt they have for electorate. And their propensity to learn anything.

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          So in other words, Newsom IS going to be the nominee unless Hakeem Jeffries somehow becomes presidential material by developing a personality between now and 2028.

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            Personally I hope he Jeb!s the primary. The republican electorate very quickly figured out when an establishment candidate was being rammed through and rejected it spectacularly. Let’s hope the Dems follow suit this time. There’s still a lot of time between now and the primary.

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    That halo over Hogan’s head is the biggest mistake I’ve seen from AI so far

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    LFG!!! Remember how “weird” almost took him out? This mud fight is long overdue. America could be the first country to resolve a civil war fought entirely through memes.

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    If it comes to Newsom against Trump in the 2028 general elections, I’m writing in “Fuck America” on my ballot, since there are no current frontrunner candidates in either party who will defend my rights. But wow he made an ai slop meme. That’ll show 'em.

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        Even more reason such a weak candidate can’t be allowed to win the primary. Putting forward such a weak platform and demanding the base hold their noses didn’t work in 2024, so why would it work again? Why leave things up the chance when every vote supposedly counts? 🙃

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          I think it’s one of those cases where whoever gets the nominated, the right wing agitprop machine will work overtime to throw wedges into the opposition and fins reasons for people to be Righteously Mad.

          So there has to be some space for disagreement and common goals. Not ‘enemy of my enemy is my friend’ but at least ‘we are broadly going in the same direction and we can at least move the Overton window’.

          It is an iterative game. Newsome, asshole or not, makes space for a slightly less right wing asshole next time. Take the long view.

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            That’s such a losers mentality. People need someone to excite them, which is what this fascist reject is trying to performatively emulate. The Dems lost because they demanded people vote against rather than for, and people saw little hope in that.

            I do not share common goals with Newsom, because California Dems like him only know how to make laws that help the rich seem progressive. I am not going in the same direction as him because he’s explicitly leaving us trans people behind. Newsom would a degenerative iteration in every sense, even more so that he showed his true colors when he tried to join Trump.

            Dems embracing him makes me even more hopeless for the future. Y’all just don’t get that moving further right and never fundamentally changing is what got us here.

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            That didn’t end up working with Biden, though. His victory didn’t push the overton window left. Under his watch, we had COVID denialism, conspiracy theories, liberals who thought Trump was the answer to cheap eggs, and an attempted coup.

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              It’s impossible to fond put what life would have been like with Trump in 2020 but… I suspect worse.

              Sucks.

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        Must be nice having a Democrat who hasn’t thrown you under the bus :)

        A Trump presidency and a Newsom presidency would be identical for me, so in a way, either vote is a vote or Trump.

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          If they’re the same, you might as well vote for him to move the Overton window and make space for the next one.

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      Save us the trouble and just don’t show up if your going to throw.

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          That’s how you got trump. If you think a miracle candidate is just going to pop up, I think that’s wishful thinking; you walk the needle to where you want it to go.

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        If you want me to stay quiet and take being the Democrats’ sacrificial cow with dignity for the sake of “normalcy,” I won’t do it. Blue No Matter Who is so simple when it isn’t your neck on the line, though.

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          No, I’m saying that writing is “fuck America” might as well be like writing in Micky mouse. Its performative bullshit that changes nothing.

          Do what you want. But wanting change while thinking that writing a phrase on a ballot is going to change anything screams slacktivism and the yearning for internet “'atta-boys” with internet strangers.

          You can make a better impact with your time, if your passionate about wanting something better, do something worthwhile.

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        If you support a candidate who interviews far-right pundits and says he “completely aligns” with them on trans issues, then I’m sorry to say that it’s you who is supporting a facist.