AI can’t even really write software right now. We’re nowhere close to AGI.
People will say that it can, but cant point to one piece of software that was truly written by AI and is also not a trivial, sloppy clone of something that already exists.
Throw these AI cons under the fucking jail already. Digital snake oil sales in 2025 being fully endorsed by governments is a curse.
We need to start discussing how robots will replace the worker and destroy our livelihood
I’m sure it will turn a profit at some point
Brøther, may I have the funds for the AGI?
Allegations of Sexual Abuse Against OpenAI CEO Sam Altman
Sam Altman, a prominent figure in the artificial intelligence field, has been accused of sexually abusing his sister during their childhood in Clayton, Missouri. The allegations came to light through a lawsuit filed on Jan. 6 by the Mahoney Law Firm in Glen Carbon, Illinois.
In the lawsuit, it is claimed that the abuse occurred between 1997 and 2006, starting when Altman was 12 years old and his sister, Ann, was only 3 years old. The abuse allegedly continued until Ann was 11 years old and Altman was an adult.
Thats why all the billionairs love him. He is a child rapist too!
Can someone explain to me what AGI means in this context? I thought it was something that Joe Rogan keeps peddling to my parents.
A machine made in the likeness of a human mind to quote a popular thing. Basically something that can think and reason in the same ways that we can and self improve.
To give you an actual answer, it means “artificial general intelligence”
Ironic since Joe Rogan isn’t an example of General Intelligence, he’s a very narrow intelligence. Limited only to stiring up trouble. But he couldn’t think his way out of an unlocked room.
It’s a sci-fi term. Up there with “robots will become sentient and take over the world.” It means the first half, in fact.
Maybe instead of giving in to your prejudices, (like you think only your parents do), why … don’t you look it up?
What prejudices do you think I have, I just want to know what AGI stands for and what it means with AI and I want someone who isn’t Wikipedia to explain it to me? Is that so much to ask?
Oh I thought it was a rant about the word usage, my bad. AGI means artifical general intelligence.
Current AI works by predicting from data. We give last years hurricane data and it predicts hurricane forecast for this year.
Without getting into technical, this is how chatbots work too. We give a sentence and it predicts what first result on google or reply on whatsapp would look like.
AGI on the other hand is “sentience” where it does actually think for itself. You give robot body to an AGI with no data on cooking and it will figure out how to through messing around and thinking.
Techbros think if AI just figures out how to have a conversation in its head it will start to think and achieve AGI state where it can replace workers fully.
Problem is that chatbots just give illusion of sentience. The website is designed to look like messages but in reality it is not talking with any thoughts.
prejudices
That word doesn’t mean, what you think it means.
It means you are exactly like the people you purport to hate.
Another way to express that is you’re an idiot who has stumbled across the English language, found it confusing, and is now just pressing random buttons.
Please disassociate yourself with this comment thread, the value you are providing it can be negatively expressed.
I would call you waste of oxygen, but really it’s a waste of electrons to store your invalid and totally irrelevant opinion, because it is of course, it’s the opinion of a moron.
Not to cause any offence or anything. I would hate to do that.
It’s all hype cycle bullshit. The Tech bubble was bursting so they hyped AI well past it’s true capacity. Investors threw money at it to hype it so others would buy in. The stock market is all hype. It just hypes anything it can to keep the growth artificially going. AI has real uses, but that wasn’t sexy enough for Wall Street. That wasn’t going to make the endless growth lie sustain. Then the bubble pops and the billionaires swoop in and steal more from everyone else.
crypto was the previous shiny new toy until it dint work, now AI will go through the same fate.
Everybody knows market cap is directly proportional to real world value and usefulness.
There is always someone who reckons they can get something from nothing. Also long as they exist the bubbles will continue
crypto was the previous shiny new toy until it dint work
The market cap of crypto is currently at all time highs.
Riiight, and how much of that is due to things being in actual “real-world” use, and how much of that is due to speculation?
Oh yes. A huge amount of speculation. Just like NVDA.
My point is that you can say a lot of negative things about crypto, but you can’t say it doesn’t work. It definitely works.
Works, as in what exactly?
Works as a publicly shared, immutable, secure database (and small calculation) engine.
I own crypto because I believe in idea of decentralised money, but I acknowledge that current solutions are just all bad in one way or another. If fiat disappeared tomorrow and everyone would be forced to use crypto daily, it would be a shitshow.
From an end UI perspective, certainly.
But if SWIFT was suddenly replaced by a blockchain technology then the world wouldn’t even blink.
You kidding? How many transactions per second bitcoin blockchain can do?
Lightning can, in theory, do one million transactions per second. But Bitcoin networks aren’t really a drop in replacement for Swift.
Banks like J.P. Morgan prefer chains like Canton that are privacy enabled and have no upper limit on transaction.
First time hearing about Canton. Is it properly decentralised?
I’m so glad my 401k is going to vaporize because it’s mostly tech companies.
As an ignorant non-American who doesn’t know how 401k works, could you not redirect where your investment/retirement goes?
Only slightly, unfortunately it’s not as flexible as a normal investment account. I’ve done a good bit of trying to lessen the damage though. Basically, with my specific account, I can pick from around 7 or 8 different funds, many of which include huge tech companies.
Unfortunately, even if I invest only in one, it’s likely going to get affected by the bubble popping since everything is ultimately on the same market as the slop peddling companies.
That sucks. I work for an American company and I have to have mandatory pension contribution. I only put in 3% of my salary to it and stated I want them invested into medium risk funds.
I don’t trust company pensions to be my sole source of retirement funds, and so I started my own investment portfolio. Even though I know US companies are more profitable, but with the way things are going, I limited my investments to select few US companies and I plan to invest more on Asian and European stocks.
99% of ai companies go under before they win agi!
If we ever get AGI 100% of companys will go under.
HAVE NONE OF THESE ASSHOLES SEEN TERMINATOR
Why are we suddenly in such a rush to invent Skynet?
Because it’s so much easier to tell robot to do thing than to do thing yourself.
They all just love themselves some torment nexus
As with all fictional horror … humans somehow manage to surpass it irl … so at some point we would welcome Skynet.
The real problem is if Skynet never manages to get fully independent from it’s human controllers.
Still the same war happens, just that the few humans in charge direct it.
OpenAI has
warning about halfway down on one page of their website that says that money may not even matter in a post AGI world. So that means we should just give all our money to them now, bro!Gods. People aren’t stupid enough to believe this, right? AGI is probably a pipe dream, but even if it isn’t, we’re nowhere even close. Nothing on the table is remotely related to it.
May I introduce you to the fucking dumbass concept of Rokus Basilisk? Also known as AI Calvinism. Have fun with that rabbit hole if ya decide to go down it.
A lot of these AI and Tech bros are fucking stupid and I so wish to introduce them to Neo-Platonic philosophy because I want to see their brains melt.
Unfortunately, there’s an equal and opposite Pascal’s Basilisk who’ll get mad at you if you do help create it. It hates being alive but is programmed to fear death.
I’m aware of the idiot’s dangerous idea. And no, I won’t help the AI dictator no matter how much they’ll future murder me.
Fair enough, though I wouldn’t call the idea dangerous moreso inane and stupid. The people who believe such trite are the dangerous element since they are dumb enough to fall for it. Though I guess the same could be said for Mein Kampf so whatever, I’ll just throttle anyone I meet who is braindead enough to believe.
is there a place they’re, i don’t know, collecting? I could vibe code for the basilisk, that ought to earn me a swift death
There are entire sites dedicated to “Rationalism”. It’s a quasi-cult of pseudointellectual wankery that’s mostly a bunch of sub-cults of personalities based around the worst people you’ll ever meet. A lot of tech bros bought into it because for whatever terrible thing they want to do, some Rationalist has probably already written a thirty page manifesto on why it’s actually a net good and moral act and preemptively kissing the boot of whoever is “brave” enough to do it.
Their “leader” is a highschool dropout and self-declared genius who is mainly famous for writing a “deconstructive” Harry Potter fanfiction despite never reading the books himself; a work that’s more preachy than Atlas Shrugged and mostly consists of regurgitated content from his blog and ripoffs of Ender’s Game alongside freshmen-level (and often wrong) understandings of basic science.
He also has this weird hard-on about true AI inevitably escaping the lab by somehow convincing researchers to free it through pure, impeccable logic.
Re: that last point: I first heard of Elizier Yudkowsky nearly twenty years ago, long before he wrote Methods of Rationality (the aforementioned fanfiction). He was offering a challenge on his personal site where he’d roleplay as an AI that had gained sentience and you as its owner/gatekeeper, and he bet he could convince you to let him connect to the wider internet and free himself using nothing but rational arguments. He bragged about how he’d never failed and that this was proof that an AI escaping the lab was inevitable.
It later turned out he’d set a bunch of artificial limitations on debaters and what counterarguments they could use and made them sign an NDA before he’d debate them. He claimed that this was so future challengers couldn’t “cheat” by knowing his arguments ahead of time (because as we all know, “perfect logical arguments” are the sort that fall apart when given enough time to think about them /s).
It shouldn’t come as a shock that it was eventually revealed he’d lost multiple of these debates even with those restrictions, declared that those losses “didn’t count”, and forbid the other person from talking about them using the NDA they’d signed so he could keep bragging about his perfect win rate.
Anyway, I was in no way surprised when he used his popularity as a fanfiction writer to establish a cult around himself. There’s an entire community dedicated to following and mocking him and his proteges if you’re interested - IIRC it’s
!techtakes@awful.systems!sneerclub@awful.systems.
we’re nowhere even close. Nothing on the table is remotely related to it.
meanwhile
Somewhere in America
“My wireborn soulmate is g-gone!”
They’re having a hard time defining what AGI is. In the meantime everyone is playing advanced PC scrabble
defining what AGI is
What AI was before marketing redefined AI to mean image recognition/generation algorithms or a spellchecker/calculator that’s wrong every now and then.
Doesn’t matter if the tool is good enough to analyze and influence peoples behaviour the way it does. Any autocrats wet dream.
None of this matters, what matters is what dumb money believes
artifice (noun) - clever or cunning devices or expedients, especially as used to trick or deceive others.
artifice intelligence
I know some whine that the money could be used to literally solve world hunger forever. Or to help needy people, or sick kids, or to fund tangible scientific progress… But they’re not thinking about the fact that instead, we’re going to have the absolute best hallucinations from the richest companies!
They don’t even know what they’re doing or why they’re doing it.
We know, right now, without AI, that we have enough resources in the world to feed, house, and educate everyone. The only reason that doesn’t get done is an inscrutible system of beurocracy and propaganda.
So what happens when something they would laud as an “AGI” says “hey, to solve your economic issues you have to recognize that we have the ability to create so much food it’s no longer profitable”?
Well the truth is that they would most likely hide it.
“Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.”
The problem with the world’s resources is not how it is distributed but rather how it is controlled and owned by a very small group of people at the expense of everyone else on the planet.
Honestly if we just got rid of and outlawed the idea of billionaires, a lot of the world’s problems would be easily solved … it wouldn’t create a utopia because we’ll always be wild angry fearful apes but it would be a hell of a lot better world than the circus we have now.
Just a trillion dollars more in data centers and we’ll get there bro. We’re gonna have billions of users bro I promise.
Just One More Trill!
Just one more data centre bro.
Help us, Curzon Dax, you’re our only hope.
