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The Danish foreign minister has summoned the top U.S. diplomat in Copenhagen to explain a media report alleging that American nationals linked to Donald Trump are attempting to infiltrate Greenland and run covert influencing operations there.
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This is so stupid.
And you all know why the government wants Greenland, right? What US industry stands to benefit?
Oil.
It’s so shallow and obvious, it’s unreal.
“We can ascertain that there are continuously foreign actors showing interest in Greenland and its current position within the kingdom. Therefore, it should not come as a surprise if, in the near future, we see foreign attempts to influence the kingdom’s future,” > “Any attempt at interference in the internal affairs of the kingdom will, of course, be unacceptable,” he said.
DR had reported that at least three Americans with close connections to Trump were involved in the influencing operations, citing eight anonymous sources in both Denmark and the U.S., including government officials.
Polling of Greenlanders indicates little appetite on the island for being absorbed into the U.S.
USA is not an ally to anyone, just look at how they’ve behaved against Canada, a country that supported the US fight for independence, and has been their #1 ally ever since.
Denmark too has been one of the closest allies to USA for half a century. And USA could easily make defense agreements regarding Greenland with Greenland and Denmark. Yet they choose to behave like an enemy!!!USA is behaving like an enemy, and behaving like an enemy, actually makes you one.
For Christ sake, stop the purchase from Denmark of F35!! What the fuck is our government thinking continuing that moronic program?
Canada, a country that supported the US fight for independence, and has been their #1 ally ever since.
Uh… No it didn’t, and no it wasn’t.
Maybe starting like 50 years after that…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada–United_States_relations
At the outset of the American Revolutionary War, the American revolutionaries hoped the French Canadians in Quebec and the Colonists in Nova Scotia would join their rebellion. They were pre-approved for joining the United States in the Articles of Confederation. When northeastern Quebec was invaded, thousands joined the American cause
Yeah this was hilarious hubris. The Yanks believed that everyone thought as they did.
I always thought Canada was with France, and supported USA in the American revolution.
Anyways up until recently Canada was generally thought (AFAIK) to be USA’s closest ally.They basically ran up and said "Hey we are liberating ourselves from the British. How about we help you do the same and with the French too and then we can all be one happy family. The Canadians did a “nah, that’s all right, thanks” and walked away.
Honestly I believe that the US would have been in a better place if we remained like Canada or Australia. We could have avoided hundreds of years of bullshit.
We didn’t support the USA’s fight for independence. They invaded us and we kicked their asses. They tried again in 1812 with similar results.
Yeah, Canada is literally the only country that has ever razed our capitol. They literally burned down the white house. I mean technically they were British at the time but they were the great great grandparents of today’s Canadians. As an American it feels really intensely stupid saber rattling at them when they’re friends by default.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada–United_States_relations
At the outset of the American Revolutionary War, the American revolutionaries hoped the French Canadians in Quebec and the Colonists in Nova Scotia would join their rebellion. They were pre-approved for joining the United States in the Articles of Confederation. When northeastern Quebec was invaded, thousands joined the American cause
I wouldn’t say we’ve been their #1 supporter since the war of independence. On average over the last 300ish years, sure. They did invade us in 1812 though.
They did invade us in 1812 though.
Fun fact, the US barely teaches anyone about the war of 1812 🙃 It’s usually like, a page in a textbook for most people. It’s rare for anyone in the US to actually know any details about it, or even what it was about.
I look forward to the reenactment of the big fire
Not sure who’s downvoting you because youre right.
It’s been a while since I’ve been in a history class, but I wanna say France was typically considered the US’s closest ally during and after the revolutionary war. Not sure how close that relationship has stayed since, though.
OK I didn’t know that.
But again that was USA being hostile, not Canada.Oh yeah it was 100% them being hostile. Canada was basically the easy target to take out frustrations they had with the crown. Didn’t work though they mostly just cost thousands of lives and got the white house burned down.
Whats the alternative? Making in-roads with China? Europe trying to join the BRICS+, the equivalent of Russia trying to join NATO?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada–United_States_relations
At the outset of the American Revolutionary War, the American revolutionaries hoped the French Canadians in Quebec and the Colonists in Nova Scotia would join their rebellion. They were pre-approved for joining the United States in the Articles of Confederation. When northeastern Quebec was invaded, thousands joined the American cause
They’ll do the infiltration with the subtlety of a baboon
Just like what the Russians succeeded with
Just need a few friendly faces so the US media can push it as ‘it’s what they want.’
to their credit, infiltratiing a population of 57000 people which are 90% Inuit isn’t that easy, anyone new stands out like a sore thumb, and there aren’t so many ways to get there either; i’d say the covert approach isn’t gonna fly.
Especially finding allies in the population is pretty senseless. Whoever lives there does so because it’s his home and he loves it as it is, i’d wager that there aren’t so many people who WANT to live in Greenland when you aren’t born there.
They have been looking for locals who may bepro Trump. So it sounds like they know
You can’t bring freedom to a backwards and obviously oppressed people without putting the DJT signature on the bottom on the check. Freedom costs a buck o’ five.
Greenland shouldn’t be a Danish colony either.
I mean, it’s not. Greenland has self-rule and parliamentary representation, and a generous bag of cash for running an arctic society delivered every year.
What they don’t get a lot of is respect, which is unfortunate.
Do they have their own currency?
No?
Then they’re about as sovereign as a US state.
Don’t be like that.
Don’t downplay colonialism?
Denmark has absolutely done many awful things in Greenland, and I am the first to argue for actual equality and reparations for transgressions.
But they are not, politically, a colony at all. And reducing the question to be about a currency unit (which is pegged to the euro btw), is simplistic and disrespectful to everyone involved.
so spain isnt sovereign because they use a “euro” coin instead of “spanish” coin? get out
Ask Greece how great it is not having currency sovereignity.
You could say the same about Australia and Jamaica being part of the British Commonwealth. Historical politics is complex.
At least Australia has currency sovereignity.
The historical crime of colonialism isn’t that complex, we just don’t want to talk about it.
The crime is simple, undoing it is very complex.
Here’s your answer: trump is a vile traitor cunt who’s putting on a show to satisfy his unbounded narcissism. Americans don’t want Greenland. We have enough land.
It is astounding how much Putin was able to damage this country by exploiting the vile republican filth.
It doesn’t really matter what Americans want anymore. Pay for the ticket, take the ride.
I did not purchase this ticket!!
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My mom recently toured several scandanavian countries, including Denmark. She prefaced more than one conversation with, “Yes, I’m an American. And I have exactly zero interest in invading Greenland.” She said it got some laughs and everyone was friendly. I think most people understand that not all Americans are fucking morons.
Idk what the OG comment was but I’m American and live in Denmark and absolutely no one has even accused me of being trumpy or even been negative that I’m American. More so its “oh so sorry your country is a shit show and wow how terrible for your friends and family still there”
People are pretty well educated here and understand that half of Americans fucking hate what’s going on
I’ve heard people suggest, for years, that Americans abroad identify themselves as Canadians in areas that the US has actively fucked over… I think that advice would be even more useful these days
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I’m pretty sure that most people know that only the kind of people who haven’t seen much more than their home state in the US agree with Trump, you’ll be fine :-)
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Paywall = clickbait. If they want your money they can say anything just to get you to click.
and it’s newsweek, a right-wing outlet that peddles conspiracy theories
Those wooden shoe wearing bicyclist will rue the day they didn’t put up the for sale sign!
