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The Danish foreign minister has summoned the top U.S. diplomat in Copenhagen to explain a media report alleging that American nationals linked to Donald Trump are attempting to infiltrate Greenland and run covert influencing operations there.
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Deport all of them immediately
But not after keeping them in some detention camp for a few months without any reason
No mercy for these lying fascists
Just fucking kill them, let the ravens feast.
trump is essentially Temu Putin
This is so stupid.
And you all know why the government wants Greenland, right? What US industry stands to benefit?
Oil.
It’s so shallow and obvious, it’s unreal.
We could more easily get oil from Alaska, there’s plenty of it.
I would say it seems to be for the rare earth minerals. As seen on this article, the US is interested in having Greenland since 1867.
“We can ascertain that there are continuously foreign actors showing interest in Greenland and its current position within the kingdom. Therefore, it should not come as a surprise if, in the near future, we see foreign attempts to influence the kingdom’s future,” > “Any attempt at interference in the internal affairs of the kingdom will, of course, be unacceptable,” he said.
DR had reported that at least three Americans with close connections to Trump were involved in the influencing operations, citing eight anonymous sources in both Denmark and the U.S., including government officials.
Polling of Greenlanders indicates little appetite on the island for being absorbed into the U.S.
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USA is not an ally to anyone, just look at how they’ve behaved against Canada, a country that is generally considered USA’s closest ally for decades.
Denmark too has been one of the closest allies to USA for half a century. And USA could easily make defense agreements regarding Greenland with Greenland and Denmark. Yet they choose to behave like an enemy!!!USA is behaving like an enemy, and behaving like an enemy, actually makes you one.
For Christ sake, stop the purchase from Denmark of F35!! What the fuck is our government thinking continuing that moronic program?
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Yes yes yes I get it, I was wrong about Canada supporting USA in the revolution. I’d have preferred not to change the text so many people have already responded to, but I keep getting the same message over and over again.Canadian here. your statement is categorically false.
America was our enemy up until around the 1900s. the colonies that became Canada were loyalist, IE, opposed to the secessionist revolution. And we were also invaded by America in 1812. There may have also been plans for a second invasion in the 1860/1870 after the Civil War.
It wasn’t until about the first world war that we were even remotely allied. and even then, Canada went to war first in both world wars. only to be joined by America 2-3 years later. We were not formal allies until we founded NATO together.
Canada, a country that supported the US fight for independence, and has been their #1 ally ever since.
Uh… No it didn’t, and no it wasn’t.
Maybe starting like 50 years after that…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada–United_States_relations
At the outset of the American Revolutionary War, the American revolutionaries hoped the French Canadians in Quebec and the Colonists in Nova Scotia would join their rebellion. They were pre-approved for joining the United States in the Articles of Confederation. When northeastern Quebec was invaded, thousands joined the American cause
Yeah this was hilarious hubris. The Yanks believed that everyone thought as they did.
I always thought Canada was with France, and supported USA in the American revolution.
Anyways up until recently Canada was generally thought (AFAIK) to be USA’s closest ally.You thought Canada…a British colony… Was siding with France against it’s own owner in support of the the US in breaking away from Britain, but decided not to secede itself?!
Canada was still Loyalist British territory. Canada would have been on the opposite side of US and France.
Canada was also not a sovereign nation at that point, It was still multiple colonial territories. What became of Canada was essentially the territory that remained loyalist during the revolution, or territory the rebels americans failed to take.
so in other words, Canada didnt exist back then, it was just Loyalist Colonials and the British vs Rebel Colonials and the French. amongst other minor participants german mercenaries, dutch, natives etc
They basically ran up and said "Hey we are liberating ourselves from the British. How about we help you do the same and with the French too and then we can all be one happy family. The Canadians did a “nah, that’s all right, thanks” and walked away.
Honestly I believe that the US would have been in a better place if we remained like Canada or Australia. We could have avoided hundreds of years of bullshit.
I absolutely understand why USA didn’t want to be a colony under a king. Where all the profits go to the king, and Americans had zero influence.
The idea of making a democracy is obviously better than a dictatorship.
But unfortunately they designed a very flawed democracy, in an attempt to maintain efficiency in governance.
I understand they didn’t know better at the time. But why didn’t USA reform their democracy already back in the 70’s?
Of course it’s because it worked reasonably well back then, and it was impossible to predict the rapid decline that started with Reagan.
The flawed democracy only worked as long as both sides respected and protected it, but Republicans began clearly disrespecting it already with Reagan, and it’s only gotten worse since.So now USA is in a situation where they are very near to require a new revolution to become a functional democracy.
The funny part is that there was a lot of propaganda. Example: no taxation without representation was actually false. The population in the UK was much higher than in the colonies, and since the colonies had members in parliament, they actually had a higher level of representation than other citizens.
But even back then, the UK was a democracy. The US took a look back at ancient Greece and combined that with a lot of 18th century philosophy to make the government we see today.
We didn’t support the USA’s fight for independence. They invaded us and we kicked their asses. They tried again in 1812 with similar results.
Yeah, Canada is literally the only country that has ever razed our capitol. They literally burned down the white house. I mean technically they were British at the time but they were the great great grandparents of today’s Canadians. As an American it feels really intensely stupid saber rattling at them when they’re friends by default.
That’s not quite true. The people who burned down the White House were British, full stop. It was mostly Canadians that fought off the American invasion and won the war, but the burning was done by fleet of ships carrying British troops that had been stationed in Bermuda at the time.
Oh I stand corrected. I still respect Canada, but now respect the British even less than I did previously.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada–United_States_relations
At the outset of the American Revolutionary War, the American revolutionaries hoped the French Canadians in Quebec and the Colonists in Nova Scotia would join their rebellion. They were pre-approved for joining the United States in the Articles of Confederation. When northeastern Quebec was invaded, thousands joined the American cause
This is like saying the US has directly attacked Russian forces because some US citizens joined the Ukrainian military.
I wouldn’t say we’ve been their #1 supporter since the war of independence. On average over the last 300ish years, sure. They did invade us in 1812 though.
They did invade us in 1812 though.
Fun fact, the US barely teaches anyone about the war of 1812 🙃 It’s usually like, a page in a textbook for most people. It’s rare for anyone in the US to actually know any details about it, or even what it was about.
I look forward to the reenactment of the big fire
Not sure who’s downvoting you because youre right.
OK I didn’t know that.
But again that was USA being hostile, not Canada.Oh yeah it was 100% them being hostile. Canada was basically the easy target to take out frustrations they had with the crown. Didn’t work though they mostly just cost thousands of lives and got the white house burned down.
It’s been a while since I’ve been in a history class, but I wanna say France was typically considered the US’s closest ally during and after the revolutionary war. Not sure how close that relationship has stayed since, though.
Whats the alternative? Making in-roads with China? Europe trying to join the BRICS+, the equivalent of Russia trying to join NATO?
in-roads with China is far and away a more realistic scenario than the other two.
So long as Russia is involved, Europe and Russia are de-facto at war. and are mutually incompatible with each other.
China has no allies. They do not cooperate militarily with anybody to the degree the EU or the US does.
Don’t conflate trade relations with alliances.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada–United_States_relations
At the outset of the American Revolutionary War, the American revolutionaries hoped the French Canadians in Quebec and the Colonists in Nova Scotia would join their rebellion. They were pre-approved for joining the United States in the Articles of Confederation. When northeastern Quebec was invaded, thousands joined the American cause
They’ll do the infiltration with the subtlety of a baboon
Just like what the Russians succeeded with
Just need a few friendly faces so the US media can push it as ‘it’s what they want.’
to their credit, infiltratiing a population of 57000 people which are 90% Inuit isn’t that easy, anyone new stands out like a sore thumb, and there aren’t so many ways to get there either; i’d say the covert approach isn’t gonna fly.
Especially finding allies in the population is pretty senseless. Whoever lives there does so because it’s his home and he loves it as it is, i’d wager that there aren’t so many people who WANT to live in Greenland when you aren’t born there.
They have been looking for locals who may bepro Trump. So it sounds like they know
You can’t bring freedom to a backwards and obviously oppressed people without putting the DJT signature on the bottom on the check. Freedom costs a buck o’ five.
Here’s your answer: trump is a vile traitor cunt who’s putting on a show to satisfy his unbounded narcissism. Americans don’t want Greenland. We have enough land.
It is astounding how much Putin was able to damage this country by exploiting the vile republican filth.
It doesn’t really matter what Americans want anymore. Pay for the ticket, take the ride.
Yeah, I didn’t vote for fascism, either.
I did not purchase this ticket!!
mr. bones says: the ride never ends
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My mom recently toured several scandanavian countries, including Denmark. She prefaced more than one conversation with, “Yes, I’m an American. And I have exactly zero interest in invading Greenland.” She said it got some laughs and everyone was friendly. I think most people understand that not all Americans are fucking morons.
Idk what the OG comment was but I’m American and live in Denmark and absolutely no one has even accused me of being trumpy or even been negative that I’m American. More so its “oh so sorry your country is a shit show and wow how terrible for your friends and family still there”
People are pretty well educated here and understand that half of Americans fucking hate what’s going on
I’ve heard people suggest, for years, that Americans abroad identify themselves as Canadians in areas that the US has actively fucked over… I think that advice would be even more useful these days
My American friends pretend to be Canadian on all their trips. Sad, but smart.
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I’m pretty sure that most people know that only the kind of people who haven’t seen much more than their home state in the US agree with Trump, you’ll be fine :-)
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Greenland shouldn’t be a Danish colony either.
I mean, it’s not. Greenland has self-rule and parliamentary representation, and a generous bag of cash for running an arctic society delivered every year.
What they don’t get a lot of is respect, which is unfortunate.
Do they have their own currency?
No?
Then they’re about as sovereign as a US state.
so spain isnt sovereign because they use a “euro” coin instead of “spanish” coin? get out
Ask Greece how great it is not having currency sovereignity.
Don’t be like that.
Don’t downplay colonialism?
Denmark has absolutely done many awful things in Greenland, and I am the first to argue for actual equality and reparations for transgressions.
But they are not, politically, a colony at all. And reducing the question to be about a currency unit (which is pegged to the euro btw), is simplistic and disrespectful to everyone involved.
It’s still stolen land dawg
And, no, the Euro is a tool of financial imperialism that allows the metropoles to dominate the rest of the Eurozone and prevent the spread of communism. That’s it, that’s what it’s for. There is no sovereignty without currency sovereignity.
Again, about as sovereign as a US state.
You could say the same about Australia and Jamaica being part of the British Commonwealth. Historical politics is complex.
At least Australia has currency sovereignity.
The historical crime of colonialism isn’t that complex, we just don’t want to talk about it.
The crime is simple, undoing it is very complex.
Paywall = clickbait. If they want your money they can say anything just to get you to click.
and it’s newsweek, a right-wing outlet that peddles conspiracy theories
Those wooden shoe wearing bicyclist will rue the day they didn’t put up the for sale sign!
