In the world of presidential health, distrust and speculation run so rampant that even Mr. Trump’s online assurance that he was fine was immediately explained away as part of a cover-up.

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    I mean, I wasn’t particularly convinced. but i was PARTICULARLY hopeful.

    also, him being alive doesn’t mean he hasn’t had some sort of medical event, etc.

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      Once you understand more about JD Vance (and the tech billionaires that installed him) you wouldn’t be as hopeful for the future as you are now. It won’t get better after cheeto dies.

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        He has to hold a coalition together to get anything done.

        Vance was a net negative on the campaign and has the charisma of a cummy sock. He’ll be the first to get the knife when they come out.

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        JD “whatever makes sense” Vance couldnt build a cult following if he tried. He has zero, it not negative, charisma

        Its worth saying he doesnt need one to get into power, but at the same time no one would turn a blind eye to his actions based solely on bias like they do with Trump. He has no chance of placating the MAGA party whatsoever if they turn on him for any reason. Not to mention that everyone knows hes a weird little gremlin, even his supporters

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          Agreed. Pence didn’t get the second run because he showed actual backbone when democracy was actually on the line. Vance is a little bitch boy yes-man.

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            I think it was more that Pence realized Trump couldn’t pull off that coup, so he wasn’t gonna stick out his neck for him. If he wasn’t VP then, I have no doubt he’d support Trump up until the present day, even if he has the same misgivings all ambitious right wingers have. People like him never allied with Trump because they like him, but because he wins against Democrats and politically destroys rival Republicans.

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        Are any of us really waiting for it to get better at this point or do we just want to have to stop paying rent/going to work?

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      Most likely way to go;

      • FSB Defenestration
      • FSB cyanide injection, Bohdan Stashynsky-style
      • Assassination by foreign power
      • Assassination by domestic freedom-fighter
      • Assassination by debtor
      • Natural causes from dementia.
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    I don’t think it’s so much “believed” as “hoped.”

    Specifically, people hoped that the staggeringly dangerous and destructive deranged megalomaniac currently destroying the US had died, since at this point, in a world in which virtually none of the politicians, government officials or journalists who are actually in a position to do anything to at least slow the US’s Trump-led sprint to neo-feudalism can be bothered to lift a finger, him dying is about the only hope we billions of ordinary prople have.

    But of course, the NYT is at the forefront of the journalists who can’t be bothered to actually demonstrate any principles or integrity, so all we get from them is this bit of sycophantic pabulum.

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      don’t forget “wanted to see if he could be goaded into doing something to harm himself and his followers just to prove something stupid”

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      He’s just trying to distract us by still being alive! Lol

      Honestly that’s the worst thing he has done as a distraction

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    “There’s always been this wishful-thinking industry around Trump’s health and Trump’s legal woes,” said Mike Rothschild, a journalist and author who studies conspiracy movements. “There’s been this far-left influencer sphere that is constantly pumping up the idea that Trump is about to go to prison or the walls are closing in.”

    Actually pretty sure the fucking assholes who kept chanting “tRuSt tHe pRoCeSs” were the centrist pro-business democrats and the people who thought Merrick Garland wasn’t absolutely fucking this all up.

    Further, him deserving to go to prison is why people were fucking hopeful that he would.

    Anyway, at least the idea that can “trust the process” is finally dead and fucking buried where it should have been thirty god damned years ago.

    But seriously, how long is the NYT gonna sanewash this shit and act like Trump isn’t an abusive criminal who has successfully abused the system to put himself above the law? Now literally comparing the need to put a criminal like him behind bars and bar him from running for President to fringe conspiracy theories. What a crock of shit.

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    The Internet was convinced otherwise.

    No we weren’t. I’ve learned that there is no such thing as good news anymore.

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    I don’t think most people were convinced, but it was nice to entertain the thought.

    If he actually had died, the resulting power vacuum would have been felt around the world within minutes.

    That or he did die and they had to decant one of his spare clones out of a vat.

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      Six people posted tongue in cheek stuff mocking what the conservatives did when Biden wasn’t constantly in the news and suddenly news articles are saying the whole Internet was convinced.

  • I wasn’t convinced and I don’t think the internet was either. Listen, people are a bit desperate for some good news right now. However, I will admit that I was indeed shining and polishing my crab emoji. Just in case.

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    What even is this article? It’s a rambling history of Trump’s medical woes as some sort of chastisement to “the internet” for hoping he had died? It’s clearly sort of the Times again sucking up to Trump, but in a weird way that doesn’t make sense?