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The chick on the right is so done - this is the sort of energy we need (unironically)
As opposed to the rich right-wing dusty old nutcases who are currently there, you mean?
Agreed, however a young, downtown leftist knows as little about my working class issues as the billionaire does. I live in Toronto where we are run by clueless leftists who ignore the real issues and they just virtual signal and talk about foreign issues instead of housing and food costs
I prefer the old crusty people who either sat by and did nothing or played an active role in the economic inequality in the US becoming worse than pre-Revolution France.
Imagine being more greedy and self-absorbed than Louis IVX, but just one of many oligarchs whose only motivation is your own enrichment even if it kills the entire planet.
Not a single FDR among them. Not one that cares enough to try to stop it.
What’s that Roman numeral meant to be?
IVX? The weirdest way of writing “6”
I think because of if how numerals are made, I think it would just be read as two numbers next to each other right?
IV X
4 10
I mean like if you saw this on genuine Roman writing or whatever
Louis 41
That would be XLI
More than half of these people are over 30. None are younger than 25.
All of the founding fathers save for Adams and Washington were younger than this when the declaration of independence was signed.
What makes them privileged though?
Can we get a % through the typical expected lifespan for comparison
Why? It’s not like you get smarter in your 20s if you have a higher life expectancy. Potentially living to 85 doesn’t give you more expirence. Im your 20s you have about 20-29 years of life expirence and knowledge regardless of how old you live.
Life expectancy is largely a measure of infant and juvenile mortality.
The founding fathers for example:
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John Adams - 90
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Samuel Adams - 81
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Ben Franklin - 84
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Alexander Hamilton - 49
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John Hancock - 56
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Patrick Henry - 63
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John Jay - 83
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Thomas Jefferson - 83
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Richard Henry Lee - 62
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Robert Livingston - 66
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James Madison - 85
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George Mason - 66
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Robert Morris - 72
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Peyton Randolph - 54
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Roger Sherman - 72
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George Washington - 67
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James Wilson - 55
If you picked a random group of well off Americans today I don’t think the ages when they died would look much dissimilar to this.
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If you survived childhood, there was a decent chance you’d live to your 60s, IIRC. Obviously disease and injury were more dangerous, but childhood killed off those most likely to succumb to disease.
Yup. Infant mortality was such a large problem before modern medicine and vaccine science that the sheer number of deaths before the age of 5 reduced the mean average live expectancy by half of the mode average.
And this, children, is why learning how to properly interpret math and statistics is important. Numbers can, in fact, lie unless you know exactly what those numbers represent.
i wonder if someone calculated life expectancy without including infant mortality.
Eh, not really but kinda. The available recorded data for that information is scarce and not a complete picture. Some studies were done but they are centered on things like “expectancy of tenants/landowners” for example, not the overall picture. It’s a complicated topic and I don’t fully understand it myself.
Though, what I do know, is that through other methods of anthropological and archeological research methods, like examining bones, we are able to prove that people generally lived into their 50s-60s.
How does that matter when talking about being fit for government?
Well because the age of your death determines your mental fitness throughout you whole life so if you can do stocks by age 3 you’re gonna die before 20 obviously.
Makes total sense, poor genius kids.
God forbid someone take interest in a topic
I thought political experience made you part of the swamp and the deep state. Now we want political experience? How does one go about gaining experience without running in the first place?
Same way you get experience before your first job, or a good credit score before your first loan. Duh
Rich and White. Fuck. Every fucking time.
I’d rather have these young, competent people aiming to make people’s lives better than those younger, completely incompetent DOGE incels breaking basic services and leaking people’s sensitve data.
Holy shit! Ambitious young people who know their shit! What… what a shame…? (Is this supposed to be bad?)
And still older than the children they got to destroy the country through DOGE.
USA is going to be so different when the old people go to grave…
Goes for more than just the USA ofc., but you guys put it on display. ^^
That’s not how progress works. You don’t make change through “a generation ending”. A generation is shit we made up to put a bunch of people in buckets without any material reason for the cutoff. It’s a tool of media/cultural narrative and nothing more.
Thinking that centuries long class conflicts will change by “waiting” until older working class people die? Funny how waiting and doing nothing through your best labor years is what you’re hoping will lead to change. Weird.
Don’t expect change without you working for change. And, it’s clear at this point, that’s not going to be possible through the existing systems of government and economic structure.
So, please, stop waiting for your parents to die to realize what they didn’t. That they were too tired and old learn that lesson. So they jump into politics near retirement and have lost all connection to the progress those better have made.
“They look scary”. We must have “gone too far” since then. So you blindly vote for the politician that gives you the most comfort.
Boomers are there now. The other generations will all follow - until we don’t. And when we don’t. That’s a very exciting time. My hope is not for the old generation to die. But that the current generation in their “labor years” are radicalized enough to bring about foundation changing progress.
I understand what you mean by this but I’d like to disagree a little.
Yes a generation is an arbitrary categorization that will have exceptions, but a group of peers born without a 15 year window will have similar expirences. We are shaped by our environments. The struggles, the media, and even the economy is going to have an impact on how these people interact with the world.
Looking at the Baby boomers they are or were a statistically significant generation. Their numbers were huge due to the post war rise in birth rates. Even if you disagree with the arbitrary grouping, you can’t dismiss the sharp increase in number of births.
Now on to politics. These large group of people born in the years following world war 2 keep electing individuals near their age. Out of the last 5 presidents all were born within 5 years of each other. Hell 3 of them were born the same year. Except for the Obama years every president for the past 30 years was born in the 1940s that’s insane.
I get you. When we zoom out over history, change does actually happen, just at a slower pace than we like. The people below the current figureheads have at least slightly different plans and much less clout. Things are going to change soon. Few years, can’t say exactly.
Edit: I am deliberately very general in this analysis.
There’s more old people coming up behind them.
People who have to live with the consequences of their actions?! Unfathomable, can’t be done.
