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    The information on the tiny amount of epstein files released might be titillating but the real meat and potatoes is in the rest of the huge mountain of information that they did not release.

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    Boycott the NFL if you like American style football just watch Canadian or Australian football or even rugby they are all close enough and in some cases like Australian football I would say are better

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    The fucking state of Virginia is calling for a moment of silence over this guy. What the hell is going on?

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        Some messages made references to Trump, though they do not provide any evidence of criminal conduct.

        Welp.

        The article also doesn’t mention those communications implicating anyone (alive) other than Maxwell, which isn’t nothing, but definitely not the illumination people were hoping for, I don’t think.

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          You’re right, you made me dig a little further.

          Edit: Here is one of the mentions of Trump:

          Trump’s name surfaced again around the time Epstein was making an intense backchannel lobbying effort to get federal prosecutors to drop their case against him. It was in an email dated Aug. 23, 2007, a month before Epstein signed the non-prosecution agreement with the US Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of Florida that ended the federal component of the Epstein investigation.

          The emails indicate that Maxwell may have been referring to a team of reporters covering Epstein who she expected would be seeking information from Trump; from Abe Gosman, the late healthcare magnate whose palatial property sold to Trump for $41 million after a heated bidding war with Epstein; from court documents in West Palm Beach; and from Joel Pashcow, the Palm Beach police and fire foundation board member who’d traveled on Epstein’s private jet. Pashcow did not respond to a request for comment.

          https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2025-jeffrey-epstein-emails-ghislaine-maxwell/

          Here is what is on Prince Andrew:

          The unsealed documents released Thursday also contain allegations that Jane Doe 3 — whose allegations match those of Giuffre — was “forced” to have sexual relations with Prince Andrew on Epstein’s private island in what was described as “an orgy” with numerous other under-aged girls. It does not specify the year. The woman was allegedly instructed by Epstein to “give the Prince whatever he demanded” and “report back to him on the details of the sexual abuse.”

          https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/unsealed-documents-show-epstein-maxwell-correspondence-2015-n1235307

          The email proves he knew Epstein at least as long as Epestein had the island up and running.

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            The email proves he knew Epstein at least as long as Epestein had the island up and running.

            That’s not enough to convict him of anything, though. It’s sounding more and more like there won’t be any smoking gun in these files, at least not when it comes to Trump specifically.

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        Oh damn I can’t wait to faicism to fall now that the files are coming out.

        Anytime now guys. Definitely not a distraction or a waste of time.

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          Idk, light magas around the edges might be swayed once they hear all of the times their leader acts like a pedophile and surrounds himself with pedophiles.

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            My maga family (who I dont speak with since even before maga) all covered up the sexual crimes of the men in the family.

            Maybe some folks it will sway, but honestly I highly doubt it would be a majority.

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            You think they don’t know? It’s not like this is a secret lol. He is a convicted felon.

            But sure, the next felony will be the one I’m sure. Lmoa

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              You think they don’t know?

              Yes. In fact, I’m certain they don’t. You have to understand, Trump voters don’t live in our reality. They live in a fabricated fantasyland created by the slop media they consume. They think Donald Trump is fighting the pedophiles, because that is what they have been told to believe. All of the attacks on him are “fake news” because they’re from mainstream media sources, which they have been told to never trust.

              If concrete evidence that they have been directly lied to is distributed to them by a source they trust, I can’t say for sure what would happen, but it’s probably the best chance for them to be deprogrammed.

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                Yes. In fact, I’m certain they don’t. You have to understand, Trump voters don’t live in our reality.

                So this will bring them into reality? Why would they start living in it now all of the sudden? They will create some alternate theory in their minds and cling to it if they have to.

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                Sound like you don’t live in our reality my dude.

                If you keep underestimating everyone who doesn’t agree with you, it’ll be difficult to think of true, inclusive change.

                They know. And they understand. The just reach different conclusions and actions with the same information and capabilities as you.

                Like you, most people aren’t passive receptacles of what happens around them. But not everyone will react the same way or think the same thing as you.

                That’s doesn’t mean they ‘live in a fabricated fantasy land’. That’s just the pc way to dehumanize people.

                They are different people, and you need to see them as that if you actually care about them. Then you might be able to have honest, constructive conversations. People don’t disagree with facts, they disagree with people.

                And acting like they’re stupid and you’re God’s smartest cookie is an easy way to get people to disagree with you.

                Cheers.

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                  You’re just being condescending and seem to have never interacted with them person to person. I live here. I deal with them daily. I have heard them double down on insane nonsense that I don’t know if you could dream of.

                  90% of what you said are inferences you are making. I understand they are victims of propoganda. It doesn’t seem like you do.

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      the far-right establishment behind the Trump administration is preparing to use this as the justification for the incoming Reichstagsbrandverordnung.

      They’ve got their van der Lubbe now and they’re working to get their bullshit in before Nov 2026

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      The same thing that the billionaires have been doing. Paying fealty and demonstrating loyalty in the hopes of avoiding attack or maybe even getting rewarded.

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    To quote Marilyn Manson:

    "If you die when there’s no one watching,

    then your ratings drop and you’re forgotten.

    But if they kill you on their TV,

    You’re a martyr and a Lamb Of God. "

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    The last time I checked, and fuck me if I’m wrong, the NFL has several black athletes. What did kirk say about black people?

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      Calling the Civil Rights Act of 1964 a “huge mistake”

      Describing Martin Luther King Jr. as “awful” and “not a good person”

      Stated “If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to think, ‘I hope he’s qualified’”

      Claimed successful Black women like Joy Reid, Michelle Obama, and Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson were “affirmative action picks” who “do not possess the cognitive capacity to be taken seriously”

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      The league only cares about black athletes to the degree that it can profit off their performance.

      Case in point: Colin Kaepernick knelt during the national anthem – which was honestly an extremely mild form of protest – and was immediately black-balled.

      If they do care about black athletes, they clearly care about money a lot more.

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        The players are unionized, and the NFLPA has a lot of strong black voices in leadership if I recall (at least as of the last time I looked into it)… But yeah I doubt they’ll do anything unfortunately.

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      Remind me who the owners… wait, don’t. Let’s just look at a picture of the owners of the nfl.

      Then think about how ‘just’ their presentation goes. Compare the owner and the ‘peripheral’ employees. There’s a better picture that I can’t find that is often used in sociology classes, where the owner of a team is in the presence of the cheerleaders and the players, and it can’t be beat for showing that if you’re a rich man wanting slaves and concubines, owning a team is pretty much the next best thing.

      The sports associations are fucked.

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    It will likely happen before every football game this weekend.

    Fox News will then publish a pearl-clutching compilation of people booing at college football games, and Trump will use that to justify defunding those institutions further.

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      Makes me glad I stopped watching football years ago when it became clear that we were systematically destroying our childrens’ brains for a chance to destroy their brains further on TV as adults. All in the name of entertainment.

      No thanks.

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        Youth sports are tricky. Girls Soccer has nearly the same amount of concussions. (10.2 vs 8.4 per 1000)

        Other sports can be just as dangerous (lacrosse, wrestling, hockey, rugby, etc.)

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      i have a suggestion, and that’s that everyone going to one of these events, cue up Entry of the Gladiators by Julius Fucik, have multiple copies downloaded on your phone ready to go at whatever public event you’re at ready for that jackass’ moment of silence, and blare it out your phone. count down one two three then whoever’s ready plays at full volume. drown the motherfucker out.

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      Trump will use that to justify defunding those institutions further.

      The federal government funds the NFL?

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        There are hundreds of College Football games that take place on Saturdays, although I think the moment of silence and pearl clutching will also occur at the NFL games on Sundays.

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          I don’t understand. What does that have to do with whether or not the federal government funds the NFL?

          *Edit: I’m half asleep and didn’t realize you were talking about him defunding colleges. My bad.

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    I think these fascists are trying to make him their “George Floyd”. But unlike what the death of George Floyd represented (a wake-up call and a rallying chant against authoritarisnism, bigotry, institutionalized racism, and police brutality), this is a complete farse and a mockery, completely devoid of any meaning. He died for nothing except to give us some hilarious memes to laugh our asses off for no more than a week

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      They’re claiming it’s their Reichstag fire… They have somehow achieved a negative grasp of history. As in measured on a scale of 1 through 10, these people have a score of -5

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      to be fair this is also a wake up call for them.

      if they fuck around, they might find out.

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          There’s no info about the shooter yet but I’m shutting up about Americans not taking action. At least for now.

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      My fuckwit uncle’s response to comments about George Floyd was “well turns out he was an asshole.”

      So as long as someone’s an asshole, it’s okay to extra-judicially murder them.

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      Apparently, it’s this guy.

      Family members turned him in, because even his own family doesn’t want to harbour this bigot.

      And here’s a quick synopsis:

      He’s exactly who you’d think. I, for one, am shocked /s. I guess Charlie wasn’t Nazi enough or something (according to Nick Fuentes in past statements, Charlie was a bit too ‘woke’, but we don’t know this lunatic’s motives yet, so I’m just speculating).

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        Not for nothing but we don’t know if he’s conservative or Republican at all. We know his family might be but we don’t know he is.

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          Yeah, I hoped I was clear that some of this is speculation at this point.

          Based on the photos, though….

          I get we need to be extra cautious, but some things are a pretty clear pattern. If we find out he was a leftist dude radicalised by the centrism of Lawrence O’Donnell, I’ll actually be shocked.

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            I mean the only photos I’ve seen is a few of him with guns. Which in no way means he has to be a conservative. Lot of leftists are good with guns too.

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    Got orders at work today to lower our flag to half staff in his honor. No mention of 9-11. This is a public school district :(