They have literally taken charlie kirks death and used it as a means to attack left leaning people from all walks of life.
- This is a full blown government takeover of the American media
- They’re forcing left leaning people out of their jobs in almost every industry.
And what makes this even worse is that it is so blatantly obvious that the info surrounding kirks shooter is almost a complete invention of the trump administration. The ridiculous bullets. The note that magically disappeared. The text messages that sound as if they were written by a 55 year old…
This country is so good and truly fucked. It just so depressing and sad. And even more depressing because it seems like no one is really even trying to fight back.
It’s almost like you have to fight for your rights. The pacifist party is never going to do that, so wave goodbye…
Please stop spamming this in every thread without providing a proper source.
The US has always been fascist, since Manifest Destiny up to and after WWII. Fascism is just now turning inward towards the people who never thought they’d see this end of the stick.
Still, despite all the hatred and forces pushing us apart and pinning us down, this is our opportunity to restructure the country and make reparations to those we’ve wronged.
Have radical optimism in the face of radical hatred.
I really appreciate this remark but I think it kind of leaves something out, among the hopeful message.
I think America is actually experiencing the greatest theft of wealth, being transferred AWAY from the middle- and lower- classes, TO the ruling Elite.
I see people dancing up and down on leopards ate my face, just as one random example… But the short-term mockery misses the long-term pain under which we will all suffer.
There are farmers who love Trump who are going to lose their farms, when they are purchased by large conglomerates, after their overseas markets were intentionally destroyed with tariffs. The last thing this world needs is more Monsanto-esque food control.
There are huge swaths of US tourist properties that are going up for fire sale in the next couple years. All of that land is going to be stolen because no one can/will visit. Although tourism is a huge industry, it’s still highly competitive and the margins are razor thin. Most tourist destinations will not be able to weather the storm.
Manufacturing, agriculture, travel… like… I could just make a list of so many lives that businesses that are going to be destroyed. And there’s fatcats just waiting to strike and steal what they have built, for pennies on the dollar.
America is in a massive crisis right now. People are so busy focusing on mockery and schadenfreude and identity politics, there’s not a lot of talk about what’s actually going on in the bigger picture!
All of America’s wealth is being stolen. Every citizen is having their generational wealth swindled from under them. Even if there’s not a direct loss one could point to, massive inflation has horrendously deflated a century of citizens’ wealth building. Families have been set back generations, even if the course is reversed. Reproductive rights are almost gone. Bump more children out with less ability to feed them, more slaves.
It’s such a dire situation and people aren’t grasping the scope of it. It freaks me the hell out.
What you’re describing here is the process that will drive the change parent speaks of. The dispossesion you’re pointing out is what will make people come together against the dispossessors.
There have been other times in the USA’s history where rich robber barons have held the majority of power.
Thankfully, class consciousness (and political integrity) had emerged enough during those times for the working class to claw back freedoms they lost to the capitalists. Look at May Day for how we earned a 40 hour work week and weekends.
I do agree with you though. There is more wealth disparity today than any other time in human history. The working class response to this betrayal by the rich must reflect this in kind, and achieve unprecedented levels of equity and equality compared to any other time in human history.
That may sound ideal, but it’s necessary. Suffering across the world may have decreased in the past 40-50 years, but the benefits of technology and the 21st century have not trickled down to the workers. Stuff should be cheaper because we’ve displaced our labor with robotics and freed our time and energy with better tools (e.g. assembly lines). It is a crime that things have only gotten more expensive as time has passed.
Power over the masses is of course the culprit. Capitalist power ensures the majority are enslaved to their 9-5s, their student loan debt, and even the ever prescient force to abolish ownership of stuff in favor of rent. There’s a reason why socialism is becoming a popular ideology in Democratic and Left-leaning populations: capitalism isn’t apart of it.
The Orange turd may actually help make things better again.: It was last time that oligarchs/robber barons had too much power that FDR changed the game & gave power back to the people.
Right. I briefly didn’t feel the stick for a month in 2015 but other than that the last time was last millennium.
Shame on the DNC
Word. We’d be in such a better place if they’d actually counted the votes.
Yes it’s entirely their fault, every bad thing that has happened this century
Top take.
And when that canary croaks, it’ll be another. And another and another, so long as we don’t have to get up off our asses and stamp out these evil fuckers and undo their shit
It’s not that easy though. We are at the conclusion of a decades long campaign to poison not just our government and politics, but our society as well. Take out every fascist tonight, and we still have to contend with the fact that, as a people, we are no longer capable of operating a democracy. Healing the divides and fixing generations of indoctrination takes time we don’t have.
I’m not saying there is no hope, but we have to sober about the tasks ahead of us if this country is ever going to heal.
Canary? The tunnels are collapsing
Bloomberg Opinion Section: “Total Tunnel Collapse Could be a Sign of Tunnel Instability”
“Why repairing the tunnels would be devastating for the prosthetics industries around the mines.”
Well, you did it. Your comment just made me laugh/spit fish allllll over my dog. He thanks you.
“Three New Tricks For Identifying If Your House Has Collapsed”
Pretty wild how when Jimmy Kimmel left the Man Show, he was replaced by rogan.
i forgot all about that show. never watched it. but i remember it existing.
Yeah this is a point I’d long forgotten. Ziggy …etc
The “he was fired for talking about Charlie Kirk” narrative is a lie.
He was talking mostly about the Epstein Files.
He was fired because that was the plan when Colbert was fired. They literally said he was next.
Okay but why in that way - during the taping of a show? That doesn’t seem very “planned”. That seems like a desperate rush.
Over the weekend would have been smoother. Hell, just about any other way would have been smoother.
They gave Colbert another year.
Someone in the administration (not Trump obviously) is smart enough to know to strike while the iron is hot. Use the Charlie Kirk killing to justify all kinds of shit that they want to do anyway while they have an angry army of supporters to shout down anyone who dares to speak up against their actions.
They were always going to declare antifa a “terrorist organization.” They were always going to come after Kimmel. They were always going to put democrats on lists to be investigated. The MAGA anger over Kirk’s killing just gave them the opportunity to speed up the timeline and they couldn’t let it go to waste.
I still say it was about THE EPSTEIN FILES and not the nazi that the other nazi shot.
Partially yes. But I’m positive that they were looking for their own Reichstag fire and found it in the Kirk killing.
Colbert getting canned was a test. They saw they could get away with it, so now gloves are off and off Kimmel goes in one night.
Everything they do is a test to see if they can get away with something. If they do, they ratchet up to the next horrendous idea.
I don’t doubt they wanted to gauge reactions. I doubt ABC was part of that in any way.
Sorry I can’t gauge your sarcasm I just watched Anne Rice bullshit. So just in case:
When asked by Jonathan Karl at ABC News asks
What do you make of Pam Bondi saying she’s gonna go after hate speech? I mean, a lot of your allies say hate speech is free speech
Krasnov responds
[I] should probably go after people like you, because you treat me so unfairly. You have a lot of hate in your heart. Maybe they’ll come after ABC.
And a few days later an open loudmouthed and funny critic of Krasnov gets fired at ABC. No connection whatsoever.
ABC execs only care about money, same thing with every other corporation bending the knee
Whether they were or weren’t, they didn’t try to stand up and say no. That’s all the information I need.
Hey, a lot of “respectable” people are fascists - and pedophiles.
wasn’t there news he got his italian passport for this exact reason ?
another “let’s set some arbitrary line down the road to avoid doing anything today”
you already live under a fascist regime you cowards… DO SOMTHING! take action NOW
You decide to take action. Please roll for initiative.
rolls 1
You slip and fall on banana peel. You ran out of action points.
What a strange mix of RPG tropes. I get what you meant but that’s like when you see “hacking” on tv.
I’ll be honest. I never played DND and only know it from memes. I was trying to make a funny. 😔
Edit: the rpg part probably stems from Baldur Gate 3. 🤷♂️
Heh, that would’ve been my guess. Nothing to be embarrassed about! Your joke worked. It was just weird to see all those concepts put together in a way they wouldn’t go in an actual game. (DND doesn’t have action points, for starters)
But Baldurs does right? I played it for like 2 minutes 😂
Not in the sense people usually use the phrase “action points”.
In D&D, on your turn, you get one action. That might be hitting someone with a sword, casting a spell, or whatever. You can also move, but that’s not typically an “action”. Some classes also get what are confusingly called “bonus actions”, which are extra things you can do on your turn. Rogues, for example, can try to hide as a bonus action even after they did a normal action like shoot someone. A regular fighter who shot someone with a bow wouldn’t be allowed to try to hide on the same turn, but the rogue could.
Because you only get one action (and bonus actions), no one calls them action points. You might say “you already took your action” or something.
Compare with a game like the original Fallout. You get a number of action points based on your stats. For an average character, it’s 7. Shooting someone typically takes 2, a called shot takes 3. I think movement also takes action points. So on your turn you might shoot someone 3 times (six action points) and move a little (1 action point). Or take a called shot (3 AP) and move a lot (4 AP). Lots of options. Divinity Original Sin 1 and 2 also use action points in a similar way.
This is way more explanation than you probably needed. The key thing is on D&D you typically do one thing on your turn (eg: attack, cast a spell). Pretty much every action has the same “cost” in this sense. You can’t really mix and match, and there’s not as much tactical depth on your turn. (Pathfinder 2e gives you three actions per turn, but I don’t think anyone calls them points there, either.)
Pathfinder 2e gives you three actions per turn, but I don’t think anyone calls them points there, either
Yeah, they’re just actions. Though the original joke kinda works, because the way Pathfinder frames it is that you gain actions at the start of your turn, so it’s more conceivable that something could prevent you from gaining those actions, or could take them away. (Indeed, the “Slowed” condition says that you “When you regain your actions, reduce the number of actions regained by your slowed value”, as a similar example.) Even though they’re not called points, they do kinda act like that kind of a resource.
Yes but not in that way.
Initiative determines the order of action. Usually in combat, but it could theoretically be applied elsewhere, a debate for example, or if a Bard challenges someone to a rap-battle (I guess those are both kinda just verbal combat though).
Action points are how many actions you can perform per turn of initiative. Usually a movement, an action, and possibly a bonus action.
Slipping on a banana peel could be done if you rolled acrobatics to leap over the banana peel but failed the skill check. Say you’re a Gnome whose lost their legs, taking a -6 modifier to Dexterity. This could cause an acrobatics roll of 12 to fall to 6, which could below the 7 you might contextually need to succeed at leaving over the banana peel.
“Using your powerful gnome arms you make a mad gorilla dash and leap with all your might, Unfortunately the loose dirt under your right hand gives way and you slip. You manage to catch yourself with your left hand, but before the squelch of the banana peel registers to your ear your arm slips out from under you and you strike your head upon the ground”
Take 1 Damage and Roll a Con save to see if you’re concussed.Edit: I brainfarted and described a potential DnD or PF situation, this cannot occur in BG
Do you crit-fail your players on initiative roles? Brutal 😮
I’ve never played DND. I’ve only know it through memes. 😔 I tried to put the gist of what I understood.
Do you crit-fail your players on ANYTHING? I can’t imagine the dm ideas for how one in twenty swings should send your sword flying into the ether.
I crit fail my players on skill checks if they have a negative with modifiers.
“Oh you rolled a -1 on your lockpicking roll? Sorry bucko, you broke your pick off deep in the lock because what you thought was a false set was your tensioner slipping”
Pathfinder’s four degrees of success system is so good here. A crit is any time you beat the DC by 10. A crit fail is any time you get 10 less than the DC. The system itself then tells you on a bunch of different spells/actions/effects what happens on a crit/success/fail/crit fail. It’s handy because often this means a regular fail can still mean something good happens for you. In the case of lockpicking:
Critical Success You unlock the lock, or you achieve two successes toward opening a lock that requires more than one success. You leave no trace of your tampering.
Success You open the lock, or you achieve one success toward opening a lock that requires more than one success. You leave behind damage that indicates the lock was picked on close scrutiny.
Critical Failure You break your toolkit and leave behind obvious damage. Fixing a broken toolkit requires using Crafting to Repair it or else swapping in replacement picks (costing 3 sp, or 3 gp for an infiltrator thieves’ toolkit).
And what action would you like to take?
Long lasting general strikes and boycots would be an effective tool. I realize they would be painful, or even impossible, for people to support themselves through in many cases, whuch is why things like mutual aid and strike funds need to be set up first.
If the film/tv industry did this alone everything would collapse pretty fast. Cut off everyone’s entertainment and they’ll get pissed real fast.
You mean like when there was a writer’s strike and basically nothing happened and basically nothing changed?
maybe more like when they took away social media in nepal and they burned that fucker down
They’re using ‘Bread and circuses’ to pacify, so remove the circuses and watch the anger boil up.
They’re doing a job of removing the bread already - huge benefit cuts from the most vulnerable among us
You do have a point, media helps keep the cattle calm and distracted…
A couple of days ago someone brought the right tools to the debate😉
That really changed things didnt it. Except no… It didnt.
i don’t know, i feel much better, and those in power now hire more security and canceled plans, which is a good indication they are scared. also talk of assassination is getting normalized. the tone has defenatly changed
We just need to keep winning debates…
One of them dies and the rest of us are dealing with the consequences.
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Look up ‘pyrrhic victory.’Oh no, don’t give the nazi regime pretense for the things they already did and already were planning to do! That would be horrible!
So why would you stop at one?
*Pyrrhic
edited. Thank you.
Because the rest of you didn’t get up and continue the fight.
Like bringing a sucker punch to a gun fight.
Protests, Marches, call for General Strike, Civil Disobedience, etc etc etc
Trumptard may not care about your opinion but he would have to care if the country stops working…
And yes, I know it’s hard… but this is what you get after decades of apathy and “fuck you, got mine”… you don’t like it? you are certainly going to hate living the rest of your life under fascism
Use the guns for what they were meant for
I want the rest of the world to commit to a defensive pact against the USA. “If either of us is attacked by the USA, we will both go to war with them”. I want a pan-continental alliance. Let’s get Europe, China, Russia, South America, Oceania, and the Middle East in this. Mexico and Canada can join too. And I’m not saying I agree with Hamas, but they do have a lot of experience against American military hardware, and the enemy of the USA is my friend.
I’m sure that the same folks who couldn’t get Harris elected will be able to create an international pact more powerful than the UN.
Well we’re not allowed to vote in US elections, so the Harris situation doesn’t really reflect on our abilities.
Ehh naw we just need to let it reset. The house of cards will crumble as soon as Trump croaks, then once ceaser is gone Rome will burn. Hopefully what comes after is better, but it probably won’t.
Personally, my family came to this foreign land, that’s not ours, to seek out a better economic life and freedom. 2024 was the first election that the youngest voting generation went more conservative in the last 100 years. The beliefs of this nation no longer align with my own, so I’m returning back to Europe where my family once came in search of those very values. I realize a lot isn’t great there either, but I have more trust in the EU protecting my fundamental rights than I do the US Constitution.
Failing that, at least Europe has better wine and I’ll just enjoy the view while the world ends.
Great Man Theory is bunk.
If you think europe is better you really haven’t been paying attention. This is a worldwide concerted effort.
^ this is the epitome of the “fuck you, got mine” mentality… you seem to think you have an out so every body else can go fuck themselves… you are not even going to try to spare most of the worst of it, you are happy to let everyone suffer because you think you have an out
Good luck EU if this is what they are getting from the USA
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Unfortunately, the time to do something was back in November.
The time to do something was back a few decades ago… back in November there was a good chance to buy some time… now it’s all uphill but it will only get harder the more you guys keep on “waiting for it”
Out of all the possible ways out of this, 99% of them started with Republicans not having full control of the government. Buying time would have allowed more Boomers to die and more Millennials to pull their heads out of their asses and start voting, getting elected and involved in party politics.
There’s no waiting going on tbh. This is like a group project in college, there is no intent to do anything but hope others will resolve things for you.
Yeap… but nobody is coming to save anyone
And here is the problem… nothing that Trump is doing could possibly end in a better situation for the USA, so when the shit hits the fan and the inevitable depression hits, the USA will do the only thing it knows how to do (specially under Conservatives): they will blame some other country and go to war with it and this time, hitting Yemen won’t do it
Right now I am basically only hoping WWIII is not fought with nukes… that’s my best 10 year scenario
I voted for Jill Stein. I was part of the 0.5%.
Congrats, you fell for a Republican trap.
People cant do anything. What actions will change things?
You can demonstrate until you die of old age and nothing has been accomplished.
I think the only actual change people can do is try and collect money to live somewhere else. I dont believe in talking and convincing people. I believe in direct action in your own life.
People cant do anything. What actions will change things?
Well Charlie Kirk has been awfully quiet and not bussing around insurrectionists to the Capitol recently. Wonder what happened there?
It didnt create meaningful change. A person was killed. The opinions of his fans are only stronger now. So what did it accomplish, really.
Also, the moment people split into two sides and wont listen to eachother, and starts fighting eachother, you have the setup needed for much more meaningless violence. This is where America is now. Because you have been manipulated into it.
You can watch this video that actually explains it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azE7nqqQMmo
Please actually watch it. This is 100% what is happening.
Oh nah, I moved away a long time ago because I saw what would happen over a decade ago.
The country relies on cars for everything. If you block some roads, you can halt the whole economy.
Not in America. In France, yes. Still humans in France.
Your mindset is why this is happening. Their propaganda has worked on you.
Either go to protests, do something more dangerous, or shut the fuck up
I believe in direct action in your own life.
No wonder why the “fuck you, got mine” attitude got you here.
PS: there isn’t really anywhere in the world that is craving to take Muricans right now… specially not ones that are not rich enough to already have an out (this sucks but money talks)…
No not fuck you, got mine.
Just not going to try and convince anyone before taking action in my own life. I think its a much better strategy if you actually want change.
well I am not American so my actions are not the same as yours…
In Spanish they have this saying “cada ladron juzga por su condicion”… which applies here. It basically means “a thief thinks everyone else is also thieving”… it says a lot more about you that your default assumption is that I do nothing even if I am calling for action
I didnt actually write or say that you do nothing. I asked you what actions you think would work.
Its because I have pretty much thought about all of this before. No action that I can come up with will lead to any change. But maybe you have better ideas.
Fair, but what you wrote is kind of worse… you basically assumed nobody can do anything about this
Yeah I dont think anyone can.
Maybe someone proves me wrong.
Most disappointing line in the sand ever.
Ten years ago was the time to flip out about fascism. I can’t believe some people are still telling us “wait for it…!”
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ the best time to flip out about fascism is ten years ago. Second best time is today.
This is what we need to hear. Not condescension for inaction, but a call to continuously move forward with protest, unification, and unwaveringly loud "fuck you"s to the administration that’s trying to kill us.
Tweet was from last year. It’s saying “it’s time”
Oh! Hah, I completely overlooked the timestamp. I never did twitter or bsky, micro blogging feels as opaque and pointless to me as Discord does to …well, most people.
Did you flip out yet? What, exactly, did you do?
Very incisive question, thanks for asking. I left the country.
We deserved better. We deserved bernie. I blame hillary clintons ambition and the dnc at the time for trying to force her through. Bernie would have beaten trump the first time.
If you’re trying to split the difference between finding a specific contemporary individual to blame versus blaming an inherently flawed democracy that contains the seeds of its own destruction, you could do worse than the DNC top brass of the last decade.
Government full of actual Nazis. Clearance Thomas fireselling Supreme Court decisions. Blame Hillary Clinton.
Tbf Trump is pretty weak so far compared to historical fascists
Not weak, just early. Hitler didn’t start with the Holocaust or even the Enabling act; he had a Reichstag majority starting July 1932. MAGA will follow in the Nazis’ footsteps; they’ll just take a little longer to do it.
He’s definitely also weak, he flip flops on every move. They would be further along if they weren’t handcuffed to a senile narcissist with one foot in the grave. OTOH they have only gotten this far riding his cult of personality, once he kicks it I have a feeling the whole party will collapse into infighting and not get anything done.
Oh Trump is definitely weak, but the progression of fascism under him is not. These two things can be true at the same time, especially because the issues he flip flops on (mostly tarrifs) aren’t actually necessary for the fascist takeover.
They would be further along if they weren’t handcuffed to a senile narcissist with one foot in the grave.
I’d say the opposite: Trump’s aggressiveness and recklessness has actually been a boon to MAGA (and a bane to everyone else). A more careful fascist might’ve actually had to win the midterms.
OTOH they have only gotten this far riding his cult of personality, once he kicks it I have a feeling the whole party will collapse into infighting and not get anything done.
I see this view a lot, but to be frank I think it’s naive. I mean, up in Canada fascists have rallied around Pierre fucking Poillievre (here’s hoping I spelled that right); these guys will take anyone as long as they can do their fascism. Fascism isn’t an artificial construct; it’s a political phenomenon that arises under certain conditions and no one person is necessary for its success once those conditions are met. That is to say: After Trump dies they’ll just find someone else, probably after a brutal and bitter internal power struggle.
Dude, your “canary” is decomposing at the bottom of a gas-flooded mine. That ship sailed months ago.
Right? We’ve had a flock of canaries go in and never come out. Let’s be frank it’s been a long time coming:
- Kimmel
- Noem v Vasquez Perdomo
- DC
- Colbert
- PBS
- NPR
- Roe
- Affirmative action
- Net neutrality
- Citizens United
- The Patriot Act
At some point we gotta stop thinking they will ever come out.
The mine:
Not even miners are safe under Trump
Minors certainly aren’t.
those poor kids
The tweet was from last year.
So they’re doing pretty good, all things considered.
The canary is very dead.
This needs to be mentioned in the OP. I didnt notice the date either.
Oh snap I hadn’t noticed the date. Yikes.
i’ve noticed something not so funny about when facism gets called out in the mainstream; out loudly enough to be heard. Seemingly, its usually only when it starts to inconvenience cishet ablebodied white people.
Until then it’s just sparkling authoritarianism.
something something first they came for the communists
Wonder if he is considering running for office now?
That would be interesting for sure
my retirement plan was dying in the water wars already, I guess the timetable has been moved forward
Water wars tend to be dry, welcome to the water wars.
