In a video statement, Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu called the growing MAGA conspiracy a ‘monstrous big lie.’
I had zero reasons to suspect Israel in this, but now there is one
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I hope that people aren’t really taking this too seriously as a reason to suspect Israel. There was a LOT of chatter saying that they killed him, by the Nazis of course. A dominant narrative on /pol/ is basically that Kirk got in bed with the Jews and now he’s paid the price for trusting them.
From the standpoint of your average left-leaning person, Israel making a statement like this seems completely out of the blue and makes them look really guilty. But there’s a whole demographic of people who really think that they did it. I don’t think it’s too unreasonable that they would make a statement about it. And let me be clear. I absolutely hate Israel with all my heart. But there are plenty of events in this world that they are not responsible for.
More importantly, this seems dangerously close to reasoning like: “You wouldn’t defend yourself against these accusations unless they were actually true!” Which is definitely not a good bar to set.
I hope people in general don’t take anything Benjamin Netanyahu takes seriously, whether it’s to immediately believe him or to immediately disbelieve him.
The man is a prick, every word he says is the kind of politically sensitive thing that’s literally always reported with some bias, and more importantly, politicians don’t make statements because they are committed to keeping random citizens half way around the world informed of the entire truth.
That’s not their job. Even your own politicians are not newsreaders or your personal oracles, they speak to the public in order to fulfil their duties moving the country in a particular direction.
So yes, obviously, if a politician says ‘yo this thing is now illegal so don’t do it’, probably take it seriously. Don’t fall into the trap of thinking cynicism is any wiser than credulousness, it isn’t.
But also don’t seriously assume you’ve uncovered state secrets because Benjamin Bloody Netanyahu made a pubic statement that you, personally, have seen the truth behind. That’s flat out deranged.
With the disclaimer - yeah no, I also did the whole ‘weirdly specific denials are rarely as reassuring as one might think’ because let’s be honest, the world is a shit show and politics is a burning circus and it’s nice to laugh at a foreign weirdo leader now and again as a nice little break from weeping at my own.
A dominant narrative on /pol/ is basically that Kirk got in bed with the Jews and now he’s paid the price for trusting them.
Do things ever go any other way over there? 🙄
Sometimes the blame falls on a non-Jew minority group!
Like immigrants! Or black people! Or trans people!
I miss the days when 4chan acted as the fucking quarantine for most of the nazi bullshit on the internet.
He did get in bed with them (verifiable TPUSA funding money), as most extreme-right do.
Problem is he turned on them recent months speaking out against their influence over the US and even the genocide.
That’s a no no, they didn’t take it well and were pretty pissed.
I was aware of the theory. It’s sketchy though that they feel the need to say they did something that should be obvious they didn’t. Unless they know they are guilty and feel the need to defend them selves.
I suppose. But if hundreds of people started accusing you of being a secret space alien, you might one day feel the urge to say “listen everyone, I am not an alien, I am a human”. It’s pretty messed up if people hear you say that and go “hmmm exactly what an alien would say tbh”
There’s a separate conspiracy mostly on Instagram that asserts he was wearing a titanium breastplate and the shooting was meant to be staged like Trump’s, but the bullet accidentally ricocheted off the breastplate.
I doubt it tbh but who knows. We have extremely unreliable evidence, eg the text messages that seem manufacturered.
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People on X were theorizing
Somehow this makes me suspicious when previously I had no thoughts on it lmao
Makes sense, they’re reaching the point where it’s more efficient to list the people they haven’t killed.
For the record, I can believe that Israel has managed to bomb everything in Gaza except Hamas.
What an oddly specific denial…
He left behind a wife and two kids. That’s how we know Israel didn’t do it.
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BTW, Netanyahu having to deal with actual antisemites peddling conspiracy theories sounds a lot like the boy who cried wolf
Being against isreal is not bigotry so save your actual bias for someone that can be trusted to be honest abput it.
Being anti-Israel is not the same as antisemitism, but I believe the previous comment was referring to the actual Nazis who were spreading the Israel-Kirk theory.
Israelis are a type of actual nazi and not a legitimate source of whom are nazis.
They are openly aligned with literal classic nazis and all the new kinds. Of course they would lie about the motive of anyone accusing them.
This is what I was referring to. Could have phrased it better.
No, it was incredibly obvious
He turned against them and lately dared to speak out on their power over the US and even their genocide.
This while at first he was made big with zionist money and now refused further payment.
He got a lot of criticism from even worse people than himself, like Fuentes and rich zionists demanding he fall back in line.That is not “Nazis who were spreading the Israel-Kirk theory” but simple facts
What an odd thing to say.
Fingers crossed for the Streisand effect.
Confirmed: When I read this headline I thought “uhhh kinda weird; who asked?”
Qanon. Of course Qanon asked.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. The murder of Charlie Kirk continues to benefit some of the most powerful individuals and banks with ties to Epstein.
The Senate called for this investigation hours before he was killed
So if anybody was paying attention to that right now instead of the threats of civil war, that would mean that people would be looking at the relationship between Epstein and individuals like Netenyahu, Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, and Peter Thiel, as well as the banks that helped fund them like JP Morgan, BNY, Bank of America and Deutsche Bank.
Or at least, people would be noticing the Republicans have voted 3 separate times to block this investigation starting on the day Kirk was killed.
Sus
Watching Israel cosy up to the far right is like watching someone free themselves from a bear trap, reset it, and start running straight at it again
Israel killed Charlie Kirk.
Holy shit, they killed Charlie Kirk??!
I never even considered Israel could be responsible. Very nice of Netanyahu to clear that up.
I didn’t think they had anything to do with it until this.
Netanyahu made a couple of social media posts about it when it happened, but there’s now not really another sensible reason why the PM of a random country cares about an American podcaster so much.
I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not
The more the Netanyahu reacts to this the more he shows where his head is at.
The PM of a different country is placing a lot of importance on what was before, just seen as an American podcaster by the mainstream.
This coupled with his “if I go down the global right goes down with me” post he made last week just makes it even more sus IMO
Did he give thinly veiled threats to release their blackmail?
well i didn’t until i read this headlineme neither fuckin smudge lenses
So….? They did?
Well we know it wasn’t Russia since no windows were involved.
Did anyone check the bullet for polonium? They might have just been trying out a new delivery method
“Because charlie kirk was an adult”
-bibi Netanyahu probably
Big Lie you say?
40 beheaded raped babies in ovens!
