I absolutely hate “smart” TVs! You can’t even buy a quality “dumb” panel anymore. I can’t convince the rest of my family and friends that the only things those smarts bring are built-in obsolescence, ads, and privacy issues.
I make it a point to NEVER connect my new 2022 LG C2 to the Internet, as any possible improvements from firmware updates will be overshadowed by garbage like ads in the UI, removal of existing features (warning: reddit link), privacy violations, possible attack vectors, non-existent security, and constant data breaches of the manufacturers that threaten to expose every bit of personal data that they suck up. Not to mention increased sluggishness after tons of unwanted “improvements” are stuffed into it over the years, as the chipset ages and can no longer cope.
I’d much rather spend a tenth of the price of my TV on a streaming box (Roku, Shield TV, etc.) and replace those after similar things happen to them in a few years. For example, the display of my OG 32-inch Sony Google TV from 2010 ($500) still works fine, but the OS has long been abandoned by both Sony and Google, and since 2015-16 even the basic things like YouTube and Chrome apps don’t work anymore. Thank goodness I can set the HDMI port as default start-up, so I don’t ever need to see the TV’s native UI, and a new Roku Streaming Stick ($45) does just fine on this 720p panel. Plus, I’m not locked into the Roku ecosystem. If they begin (continue?) enshitifying their products, there are tons of other options available at similar price.
Most people don’t replace their TVs every couple of years. Hell, my decade old 60-inch Sharp Aquos 1080p LCD TV that I bought for $2200 back in 2011 still works fine, and I only had to replace the streamer that’s been driving it twice during all this time. Sony Google TV Box -> Nvidia Shield TV 2015 -> Nvidia Shield TV 2019. I plan to keep it in my basement until it dies completely before replacing it. The Shield TV goes to the LG C2 so that I never have to see LG’s craptastic UI.
Sorry, just felt the need to vent. Would be very interested in reading community’s opinions on this topic.
Pro Tip: Buy a Computer Monitor e.g. 4k 34 inch
they don’t have any smart tv shit, but you need to buy some extra for the audio
that’s a lot more money for a smaller screen, though. 32" is a big monitor sitting in front of a desk, but a small TV if you’re on a couch.
you can buy “gaming” monitors that are 48" big for example https://x-kom.de/653504-gigabyte-aorus-fo48u-475-zoll-4k-gaming-monitor-hdmi-21dpusb-c-120hz-hdr-oled (caution! german website)
or this one: https://www.lg.com/de/monitore/lg-48gq900-b
Idk at which point they are starting to implement some kind of “smart tv”
Is there something scary about German sites that I’m not aware of?
jesus what are those prices
Not being able to subsidise the screen by selling ads doesn’t help. Low latency technology also isn’t very cheap.
That second one is apparently sub-ms latency, which is incredibly unnecessary for a TV.
If you mean the 0.1ms, that’s not latency. That’s grey to grey speed which is practically meaningless. The image can’t get from your PC to the monitor in 0.1ms.
The fastest monitors I can find have a real latency of 1.7ms, and that’s a 1080p monitor running at 360Hz. When you get down into the 4k 120Hz range that the top TVs do, the speed falls to around 5ms, which is about the best you’ll get from a TV.
“gaming” and of course NO SMART SHIT
48" is still small by many people’s standards. My TV isn’t particularly large and I think it’s a 52"
Many features that come with TVs these days are not available on monitors. For example “filmmaker mode”
Monitors are effectively always in ‘filmmaker mode’, as they don’t do frame interpolation and colour grading and over-scanning and all the stuff that filmmaker mode disables.
I don’t think there are many monitors that support 24fps natively.
A 120hz or 144hz (reasonably common) monitor could do 24FPS with no issues, as that’s either every 5th or every 6th frame exactly.
Im not sold in the idea. I did find a couple of OLED 4k 120hz monitors on ‘TV size’ (BenQ MOBIUZ EX480UZ ), but then they dont seem to have (or at least advertise) hdmi-arc or hdmi-CEC support, and the brightness is only 480 nits (vs 800 of a LG C2) and it seems more expensive.
I would not recommend it as a replacement for an actual TV in a living room.