Hii! So a few days ago I began a nearly fully carnivore diet. Eating Angus and 85% lean grass fed patties and I have been experiencing these crazy symptoms.

Question with no context: Do you experience what feels like our ancestral psychology of Kill, Conquer or Reproduce endlessly. From eating a carnivorous diet?

It began with this incredible energy and irritation to certain things. That was almost all consuming. Though I had to control of course.

Then this absolute arousal mixed with the want to eat more meat but also nonstop reproduce.

Beyond that I had amazing pain management. Where I got a cut that almost circled my whole arm. Barely any pain. When before that’d sting like a BITCH.

I also today held a 375 F pan and only got one blister and the rest of my hand healed in 30 minutes to an hour and I held it for probably 30 seconds or longer. I’d assume you’d have worse burns. Though most of my hand has no burns, the elasticity of my thumb came back in that 30-1 h. Only thing left is the blister that’s tiny.

Lastly I managed to automatically breathe or just absorb air for 15 minutes rapidly moving. Probably 10-15 reps per 20 seconds until I went 30-40 reps per 20 seconds. I pushed myself to max near the end and that’s when my breathing dramatically increased needing me to actually breathe.

Does anyone else experience this with eating constant meat? It almost feels like Kill, Conquer or Reproduce. If that makes sense.

  • Flax@feddit.uk
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    6 hours ago

    no, but it does make me want to get on all fours and eat grass and say “mooooo”

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    I also today held a 375 F pan and only got one blister and the rest of my hand healed in 30 minutes to an hour and I held it for probably 30 seconds or longer.

    Yeah, no. First off, at that temperature you’d have ended up hospitalized if you held on to it for 30 seconds, and no, your body will not repair itself in 30 minutes no matter what you think. This is the real world, not X-Files…

    Having said that, I feel like you’re having different issues and maybe you should talk to a psychologist?

    Also, eat vegetables. Seriously, what is it with the Internet and giving people terrible ideas?

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      I mean my hand is healed but that blister 🤷‍♂️

      No one gave me any ideas. Why does everyone assume. Someone has to give you an idea. My body reacts very well to this.

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      Very likely yeah I mean that’s how I pushed myself to 40 reps every 20 seconds. Before I could only do about 25 to 30 reps every 20 seconds. And that was painful

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      Don’t even know if I have any I like. My parents didn’t do good on feeding me. This is the first time I’ve had anything like high quality meat in years.

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    9 hours ago

    Hi I’m one of the moderators of !carnivore@discuss.online

    Do you experience what feels like our ancestral psychology of Kill, Conquer or Reproduce endlessly

    No, the most common psychological effect people report is being very calm and less anxious.

    irritation to certain things.

    Can you describe the irritation?

    Where I got a cut that almost circled my whole arm. Barely any pain. When before that’d sting like a BITCH.

    This is not a known affect of eating a carnivore diet, pain sensitivity should be the same

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      Well one irritation is when I first started this my body craved the meat itself and I was like deeply hard focused in on wanting to eat more meat.

      Secondly. I get this very protective overwhelming anger when for example my wife talks about her abusive mom. That doesn’t feel like anything from mania as I’ve experienced that before but almost an animalistic sadistic anger. That is cold and controlled but the moment you are released it’s beyond anything you’d expect in a human.

      Mania when I felt it was this overwhelming heat, unbearable, like every single thing sets you off. Hard to control. This is nothing like that.

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    15 hours ago

    You did not “hold” a 200c pan for 30 seconds and escape with one blister and no burns.

    Eating meat doesn’t rewrite your genetic code and give you heat resistance.

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      Yeah I only had a blister on my middle finger. Everything else came back perfectly fine. I’m not saying that alone did it but I wouldn’t be surprised if it had some effect

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        You need to goto a scientist and let them know you are a superhuman

        In the real world, you either didnt hold onto it for 30 seconds, or the pan wasn’t very hot.

        You would be physically incapable of holding something that is 200c for more than a second. Your body wouldn’t let you.

        And if for some reason you dont have nerve endings, you’d be in hospital

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    14 hours ago

    It’s always nice when someone proves that there are indeed stupid questions.

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    My genuine advice for you is to find a psychiatrist, tell them everything, and then follow their recommendations

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        18 hours ago

        The food is not doing this to you. The increased energy and irritability you describe are hallmark symptoms of a manic episode. Other symptoms include increased sex drive, loss of impulse control, and increased goal-directed activity.

        I had a patient once who was manic as fuck and even came into the hospital denying that he was manic, that instead he started an all-meat diet and it gave him limitless energy. In real life, he was experiencing mania before he started that diet, and his manic brain was just continually connecting dots that weren’t actually connected.

        I highly recommend you see a psychiatrist for an evaluation. If you are experiencing a manic episode, it could get worse before it gets better. I’ve seen it get a lot worse for people

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          Ohhh it’s not the type of irritability I have with mania at all no. Also I have full control over impulse control. Also it’s not the same at all how it felt when I was manic with any of these symptoms. Including I live currently in a 10-30% Hypomania. I can control it up to 80-85% mania. I can assure you this isn’t it.

          I gained evolutionary bipolar. My induction. I can tell I haven’t reached over 85% mania in like two years now or longer. It simply is so low probability. Basically impossible. In my case.

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              I don’t need to. I can assure you that. This is not bipolar. The effects mentioned here. How they show up in bipolar are very different and more debilitating.

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                Whether you’re bipolar or not, people are saying that you are obviously not well. I think it was irresponsible for people to call what we are seeing mania with such certainty but you have certainly started to lose touch with our shared reality.

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                  It’s not that lost touch with reality. It’s that I’m just different. I’ve always been very more animalistic. Like I actually make Cassowary sounds and more types of sound. Constantly.

                  I even have an Estrus literally. So while this post may seem crazy for others. The ancestral primal instincts I’m gaining. Truly I don’t think is that crazy. I just didn’t know I was this odd.

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            17 hours ago

            Bipolar disorder is not curable, meaning that if you have it, you have it forever. That you have experienced mania before, but think right now it’s “impossible” that you’re manic, that’s a worrying sign.

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              Yeah I know it’s curable but you can manage certain symptoms. I learned to control symptoms so much it sense a second nature. I understand it’s likely you won’t believe anything I’m saying but that’s ok.

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    19 hours ago

    This is the most cartoonish thing I’ve read about recently. Bravo.

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        17 hours ago

        Possibly the super-powers-from-meat angle you are explaining. 🙃

        You may need a longer sample period to identify any changes happening here.

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          But aren’t these changes already happening? I mean from everything that I’ve typed and experienced. It seems like the changes happened really rapidly maybe not fully developed but yeah.

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            If you let us know the video or article that got you on the diet, we can advise more.

            Often diet advice is bogus when it does not come from a dietician.

            Some random advice can be harmful.

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              None. Just threw this together and my findings just matched ancestral traits. (Basically non civilized traits, tho tbh I’ve always matched those just this really kick started it)

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    Hi, YES!

    Okay, so like half your post is pure lunacy, but low carb dieting is known to commonly cause hypomania in many people. This is often one of the desired effects of the diet, which often simply manifests as feeling more energetic and optimistic. It sounds like you might be experiencing this effect to an extreme.

    I recommend that you (1) immediately come to terms with the fact that you are not in your right mind and (2) eat some carbs and see if you feel more normal. Then work with a mental health professional if you want to continue experimenting with low carb diet strategies.

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    18 hours ago

    I beg your finest fucking pardon. The fuck did I just read? I get why other comments are saying bait.

    I’ve done basically full carnivore back when my partner first had bariatric surgery because we don’t have the largest food budget and she needed to avoid carbs while having the highest amount of protein for the smallest possible volume of food so meat was basically the only thing that fit the bill.

    What in the frosted mini fuck are you on about?

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        9 hours ago

        The opposite actually, there is lots of very promising research on the metabolism mind connection. Basically applying therapeutic carbohydrate restriction (keto) for psychiatric disorders.

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            I didn’t say that. Thanks for your consistent downvotes! It reminds me that you are still around!

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                Lack of carbs may have cause a psychotic break.

                Basically applying therapeutic carbohydrate restriction (keto) for psychiatric disorders.

                My intention is to illustrate that the abundance of carbs appears to be more linked to psychotic issues.

                lol “It’s only their carnivore diet that is keeping them this lucid!” gtfo

                I didn’t say, or imply, that the original poster is lucid.

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        Honestly, most of my stuff is coherent. You guys just don’t assume so because it’s so far-fetched to you. Also, it’s not exaggeration. It’s just specifically what I experienced.

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    Beyond sounding like absolute anti-carnivore hogwash or placebo, it sounds like a weirdly accelerated case of that parasite you can get from eating undercooked red meat.

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      I also had a second question would what I said be good why would it be anti carnivore hogwash? Wouldn’t someone want these effects?

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        You described eating meat as messing with your brain. Even if general effects are considered positive, it’s not exactly great and the crazy vegans (specifically vegans who are crazy, not calling all vegans crazy) would certainly sell it as messing with your brain chemistry.

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          There are trends across different diet communities. Carnivores self describe as having “Carnivore calm” and things that used to bother them don’t anymore.

          Vegans have their own reputation for their “calmness” as well. i.e. @jerkface@lemmy.ca here who just downvoted this comment, and also runs several vegan communities. They know how strong their reputation is they made it their whole personality.

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          I thought these effects where honest fantastic great is an understatement.

          Oh, I see what you mean with the vegan stuff. It’s stupid because The benefits that I’ve mentioned are like extremely beneficial to me like I haven’t felt this good in the very long time.

          Also, to be fair, I’ve grown up around dogs, so my mental state is a lot more primal than most people. so the meat may affect me a lot differently. To me, I just thought this was normal like the ancestral animalistic traits.

          Though I’m guessing from the reactions, I am a very odd outlier.

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      Yeah couldn’t be uncooked here if anything slightly overdone for my liking. I just can’t gauge it perfectly with the oven.

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        Undercooked, not uncooked. The parasite is still active even in rare meat. It needs to be done to medium before it’s truly safe (grey all the way through and easily slips off the fork when inserted).