• SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
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    1 day ago

    Biden did a fantastic job and they listened to the people who thought Biden was too old and ran Harris who would have been great.

    Even if you don’t like her life would be a thousand times better right now for everyone in the world.

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      19 hours ago

      Biden did a terrible job. It took Biden hobbling out on stage, and making the Democrats the laughing stock of the world for them to do anything.

      And what did they do? Put in a highly unpopular candidate, who kept saying that one of the least popular presidents we ever had was doing a good job.

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      23 hours ago

      A shame you don’t recognize how much of a problem the Democrats are. I voted blue just like I had in every election before then, but I was so angry and scared, because I saw all the mistakes they made that cost us everything. I saw them ignore young people on TikTok and Israel. I saw them shy away from every possible hint of populism. I saw as they denied that the economy was terrible, praying the inflation would even out even though inflation was merely the tip of the iceberg.

      Life would be 1000 times better if Harris won, but the fault lies squarely on the ruling class and the party elites. They refused to do what was necessary to unite their base, and as disappointed as we can be in the voters working 9-5s with no hope of ever owning a future, it was the party’s responsibility to win them over. Instead they underperformed in all those demographics because they refused to acknowledge problems or propose solutions. A party that has only become worse and will only fight the left.

      what i knew right after the election and will peach till they purge me

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        9 hours ago

        A shame you don’t recognize how much of a problem the Democrats are. I voted blue just like I had in every election before then, but I was so angry and scared, because I saw all the mistakes they made that cost us everything.

        Kid, I don’t know how many decades you’ve been doing this, but I’ve been doing it longer. Don’t preach that shit to me. Your “ignoring kids on TikTok” is hilarious because it’s so far down the list of the ways in which they routinely fuck up.

        Life would be 1000 times better if Harris won, but the fault lies squarely on the ruling class and the party elites.

        Comrade, you can bourgoise yourself blue if you want to but that’s just jerking off and ignoring the real issues. The real issues are: public involvement, messaging, and organizational communication.

        It’s not a cabal of Zionist elites wrecking things, that’s what Bolsheviks tell college kids because they don’t know any better. It’s getting people to show up, and allowing members to communicate as individuals while operating as a national millions-strong political entity.

        It’s hard to do honestly. I mean, it’s easy to do if you’re corrupt, stupid, and fascist. It’s hard to do if you’re honestly trying to do the right thing.

        And whichever large city you’re in, please note the Slaver’s College requires you to engage with vast tracts of unpopulated land, and maybe they’re not as on board with luxury gay space communism as we are yet. (See the “messaging” part.)

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          Your “ignoring kids on TikTok” is hilarious because it’s so far down the list of the ways in which they routinely fuck up.

          It wasn’t an important issue in the grand scheme of things, but it probably had a larger impact in driving away kids than most people want to admit. Voters often ignore actually important issues in favor of what they see in their daily life.

          Also not sure where you got the idea that I thought Jewish cabals were why Democrats lost. AIPAC strategies to sink Democrats that oppose them are well known and explain their influence in the party, but the Gaza issue alone was only one brick in a very large wall. I’m not sure why you think being condescending is helpful. I’m not even sure if you’re coming at this from a bone headed liberal perspective, or a boneheaded ml perspective; I guess they’re both the same at the end of the day.

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            No, sorry just using Zionist cabals as shorthand for “them” which is usually what elites are a stand in for. Not actually saying that is a thing or has an effect.

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          23 hours ago

          Nah, what I’m saying is we need to take over the party and purge the feudalists acting as controlled opposition. That requires recognizing that there is a problem with the shit they feed us, not pretending that it’s anything but shit. That requires not doing the same fucking bullshit party elites do of denying that the situation is terrible. That requires not giving up and believing there is no other way than sucking corporate dick.

          Fear is how MAGA radicalized their base, and we have nothing but reasons to be afraid right now.

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            Nah, what I’m saying is we need to take over the party and purge the feudalists acting as controlled opposition. That requires recognizing that there is a problem with the shit they feed us, not pretending that it’s anything but shit.

            I agree! I’ve thought the same thing for forty years. The real truth, though, is that “the shit they feed us” is what we told them we wanted to hear - as far as they know.

            Consider this: whatever perfect political organization of “the left” you can imagine already has a global communications platform. Several, in fact. So? So - prove the messages that resonate are popular. Prove that healthcare for all [or insert political goal here] wins elections.

            That’s a crazy big ask. And you’ll get yea far before you start thinking “We could do a lot of things if we had some money”. Well - go get some money then. And before you know it, you’ve rebuilt the Democratic Party.

            OR - we could infiltrate the party as-is and make it do the right things. Y’know keep the letterhead and like that but, with [insert platform] instead of sucking corporate dick. That has its own challenges of course.

            But it’s either the former or the latter because we’re already living in the third way.

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                22 hours ago

                It’s better then whats happening now and I still don’t see the leftists doing a thing besides complaining about Mamdani not getting a chance along with Bernie.

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                  They’re doing stuff. They’re killing time before showing up in September and October 2026 screaming about how the Democrats don’t care about whatever it is.

                  They could be fielding candidates. But they won’t.

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                  17 hours ago

                  They’re the ones protecting and fucking with ICE. While Democrats vote yes on Trump’s bullshit.

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      they listened to the people who thought Biden was too old

      WHAT? They refused to do it for so long it cost them the election.

      That is some bad historical revisionism when it’s so fresh in our memory.

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        You’re not actually disagreeing. They did wait too long, but they did it. You agree. That in itself is important. Can you imagine any republiQan doing that? No, because they only think about themselves.

        Hell, they elected a demented rapist who’s stroking out every week instead of a legitimate candidate.

        Historical revisionism? Not at all.

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        17 hours ago

        The party has told their sheep to ignore their history, it’s time for party funding and voting for the “lesser evil”.