• Daftydux@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 hours ago

    This misses the point. The point is no one, especially someone who has given back to society by preforming labor, should be left out in the cold.

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      I think the point is nobody should live in poverty. Fullstop. Addendum to that, workers should be paid a fair day’s wage for a fair day’s work. But the first sentence is the core of everything.

      • Deceptichum@quokk.auOP
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        6 hours ago

        They don’t agree with that, they think that if you have a job you are more worthy of being allowed to live.

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        9 hours ago

        Still not getting it. These people have sacrificed a substantial part of their life and have nothing to show for it.

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          You don’t get it, you don’t have to sacrifice anything to have value as a human.

          Why do Libs always have to dehumanise people?

          If you work 100 or 0 hours a week, you have exactly the same right to basic life needs.

          • Daftydux@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            7 hours ago

            You dont get. Beyond your idea utopian society the society these people labor to build has forsaken them.

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              I don’t understand why you’re having such a hard time with what they’re explaining to you. No one is disagreeing that working people are getting shafted.

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              Yeah it’s pretty stupid to slave away under liberal capitalism and expect anything. We clearly don’t live in a utopia, yet these people act like we do and expect to be rewarded by it.

              Once people start living in reality and realising our innate worth is more than a number on a corporate timesheet, maybe we can get somewhere.

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                7 hours ago

                We could talk but their isn’t some brain trust that is just waiting to be awaken. There is no grand self actualization. Quit wishing for it. People are dumb, scared, complacent creatures. Quit waiting for them to come together, hold hands, and stop the violence.

                Thats reality.

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                  7 hours ago

                  We don’t need a brain trust, we need you lot to start using what you already have.

                  Reality is, as long as people like you argue and fight to defend the harmful status quo, things will only ever get worse. But this attitude is so deeply ingrained into you, that you can’t even see that all humans have the same worth.

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      It is called the Nirvana falacy: rejection of anything that is not an immediate perfect solution.

      A road is crossed in many steps, not one giant leap.

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        6 hours ago

        Ironic.

        At no point in this meme or thread, has the argument ever been ‘We should never go to the 1st step’, it is entirely 'We should aim for the 2nd step, and don’t let the Libs stop you at the 1st.

        The only people who reject anything, are the libs who reject the notion that you can work towards the 2nd step.