• subito
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    41 year ago

    Your reaction confuses me. Do you think you can just walk in to any country in the world as you please?

    • @lysy
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      51 year ago

      Yes. Why should I be bothered about some artificial borders?

      • subito
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        11 year ago

        That’s an interesting take… The border might be “artificial” in terms of land, but in terms of culture and quality of life I think your opinion is a bit… extreme. Like, if you had to personally host an economic migrant from a very poor country I don’t think your resolve would hold. It’s one of those things that sounds nice on paper but really isn’t once implemented.

        Consider, for example, that countries on opposite ends of the of the political spectrum and economy agree that they must have control over their borders to some extent. Either to keep people in or to keep people out. Do you honestly believe that communism, democracy, or [insert your preferred system here] can work if you allow millions of people who hate it into your country? Your opinion does not seem compatible with a functional society.

        • @lysy
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          11 year ago

          Like, if you had to personally host an economic migrant from a very poor country I don’t think your resolve would hold.
          It’s your assumption, I’ve hosted two people from a very poor country (Ukraine), not for too long (3 months) but we had no issues. But it’s just one, my case, anegdotic fact. Also, I personally know many refugees, I’ve helped some to get through the border, who were determined to find new life in a new place and they succeeded. However I know and have that in mind, that not everybody acclimatize and some need really wide and huuuuge spectrum of help and guidance

          Also, we have to finally understand that global climate changes will make tens of millions people to move from their, already unhabitable areas. Whatever numbers of people moved already, it’s nothing compared to the near future. We have to be prepared for it, but not with guns, bullets and walls. We have to prepare them, to export knowledge, education, culture, financial help to poor countries to that there won’t be that huge schock for both us and them during upcoming migrations.

          And yes, I don’t care bout artificial borders. Even biblical (other religions for sure speak the same) Natural Law talks about it. Nature doesn’t belong to any person. Land doesn’t belong to any person.

      • subito
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        11 year ago

        What alternative would you suggest then? They have people taking advantage of the fact that isn’t a physical barrier there. Once it’s there they will definitely have less illegal immigration. What other method is there?