• harc
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    2 days ago

    Ok, what does that prove? Any post-communist country has a massive problem with fascists/neonazis, but Ukraine has considerably less of them in parliment than any neighboring country. If I recall correctly none of the post-maidan far right parties got any places.

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      it doesn’t prove anything, I was making a joke that in the US a guy running for Senate had straight up Nazi tattoo on him, the problem isn’t limited to Eastern Europe.

      in fact it seems like the nazism problem in Ukraine is more of a civil society problem, as in rather than getting state crackdowns on speech, if you say the wrong thing you might get a group of patriots showing up at your door to teach you a lesson.

      here’s a video from a ukrainian communist in kharkiv explaining the issue, translated by a ukrainian from mariupol

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          I post things in English because the audience here speaks that.

          The thing with your source is that 98% of state communist in the region are Russian sympathizers and as such legitimate targets in war conditions. They will be oppressed for siding with enemy

          your response did illustrate my point well though

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            Oh, k ddnt notice you’re a Russian (native?) speaker. So, wanna tell about the Russian civil society and it’s situation?

            My personal opinion was shaped by being held at gunpoint by FSB and internal border guards on one hand and activist who had to run abroad for their lives, or the ones who did not like Baburova and Markelov on the other, but I’m sure you have a better insight. Like it can’t all be state sanctioned neonazi attacks on environmentalist camps, surly there’s a lot going on beyond that? I’m not asking about the part in favour in government/spec mil op. I’m asking how is the opposition treated and how that fares against the mentioned Ukrainian experience.

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        Removed by mod

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            Unless you are anti-antifa id be interested how you argument that there was advocating for war crimes and not stating that is happening and why, and what the given justification is. Context was mobs acting against individuals, not millitary.

            But of course the given reason is BS. Another deleted comment simply stated antifascism is incompatible with authoritarianism, and you people find that offensive… Also few comments away you have a guy blatantly denying a broadly accepted case of genocide, but he matches your ideological bias so no one bats an eye.