Charity is generosity and helpfulness especially toward the needy or suffering so of course debt relief is charity.
That’s like saying “tax deductions are charity”. Which is to say, untrue. Charity is personal, debt forgiveness is public policy.
The cryptobros (…) are able to read the source code of the application before using it and decide whether or not to use it
That is demonstrably untrue. The source code is accessible, sure, but ability to read it and reason about it is a whole different thing. And as smart contract bugs and all other sorts of problems with code related to “defi” show, that ability is not really doing them much good.
And before you go on a tangent about how “open source is important”, I’ve been doing FLOSS activism for way over a decade now.
the citizens of third world countries have no choice in what countries they’re born in
Dunno, man, can’t remember being asked where I want to be born in either, even though I come from the so-called “Western World”. 🤷
and are largely unable to move to other countries safely without help
And crypto helps here… how exactly?
I ask how the fuck does everyday communism/debit relief stop central banks from devaluating currencies and governments from expropriating property of their citizens
That’s like saying “tax deductions are charity”. Which is to say, untrue. Charity is personal, debt forgiveness is public policy.
please open a dictionary whether or not an act of kindness is done by an individual/company/government doesn’t alter the fact that it’s charity.
That is demonstrably untrue. The source code is accessible, sure, but ability to read it and reason about it is a whole different thing. And as smart contract bugs and all other sorts of problems with code related to “defi” show, that ability is not really doing them much good.
The same could be said about all open source software even if they aren’t technical it’s not wholly impossible to get in touch with people are and make a decision again it’s their decision whether or not to get involved with something they don’t fully comprehend no one is holding a gun to their head forcing them to do so.
Dunno, man, can’t remember being asked where I want to be born in either, even though I come from the so-called “Western World”. 🤷
The point you idiot is that they don’t get to choose to be born in place with loads of corruption and you being born in the west isn’t a curse like being born in a third world country is at the end of the day the chances are high that you have the capital needed/can find someone to give you the capital if you needed/wanted to move somewhere else and do so safely
And crypto helps here… how exactly?
It gives them a way to preserve their purchasing power while they’re stuck in that hellhole and save up to be able to move somewhere nicer
The point you idiot is that they don’t get to choose to be born in place with loads of corruption and you being born in the west
Wait, I’m confused. You kept bringing up how the financial system is corrupt, and kept giving examples from the West. Now you’re saying that there is not loads of corruption in “the West”?
Which one is it?
It gives them a way to preserve their purchasing power while they’re stuck in that hellhole and save up to be able to move somewhere nicer
I kinda think calling certain countries “hellholes” is kinda racist, don’t you?
And before you start calling me names again and telling me that there are other cryptocurrencies, perhaps consider when exactly a person living on $5.50 per day and working all-day shifts is supposed to do their research into cryptocurrencies, not to mention reading the code and the smart contracts to make sure all is nice and dandy.
Wait, I’m confused. You kept bringing up how the financial system is corrupt, and kept giving examples from the West. Now you’re saying that there is not loads of corruption in “the West”? Which one is it?
My examples came from third world countries as well plus it should be very obvious the level of corruption in the west doesn’t affect the daily lives of a majority of it’s citizens while in the third world it does.
I kinda think calling certain countries “hellholes” is kinda racist, don’t you?
Racism is the discrimination of a person/group of persons based on their race/ethnicity how does my use of hellhole do that all I’m doing is highlighting the negative conditions of those countries not discriminating against their inhabitants.
And before you start calling me names again and telling me that there are other cryptocurrencies, perhaps consider when exactly a person living on $5.50 per day and working all-day shifts is supposed to do their research into cryptocurrencies, not to mention reading the code and the smart contracts to make sure all is nice and dandy.
Wait, I’m confused. You kept bringing up how the financial system is corrupt, and kept giving examples from the West. Now you’re saying that there is not loads of corruption in “the West”? Which one is it?
My examples came from third world countries as well plus it should be very obvious the level of corruption in the west doesn’t affect the daily lives of a majority of it’s citizens while in the third world it does.
Ah, so you’re saying that Western political systems and financial sector regulations mostly work, then?
Racism is the discrimination of a person/group of persons based on their race/ethnicity how does my use of hellhole do that all I’m doing is highlighting the negative conditions of those countries not discriminating against their inhabitants.
Living on Defi: How I Survive Argentina’s 50% Inflation - Mariano Conti at Devcon 5
Yeah, pretty sure that person does not, in fact, live on $5.50 per day. Which is exactly my point: cryptocurrencies do not lift poor people out of their circumstances, cryptocurrencies cushion the already well-off and give the very rich them one more tool to use to extract wealth from others.
Ah, so you’re saying that Western political systems and financial sector regulations mostly work, then?
they work fine enough for people to not starve to death and die of preventable diseases but they could be sooooooooooooooooooooooo much better whether or not people want that it’s up to them.
This is how
I call my country a hellhole all the time I don’t care about the opinions of trump and other people just that we make them stop being hellholes.
Yeah, pretty sure that person does not, in fact, live on $5.50 per day. Which is exactly my point: cryptocurrencies do not lift poor people out of their circumstances, cryptocurrencies cushion the already well-off and give the very rich them one more tool to use to extract wealth from others.
Living in a country with 50% inflation is being well off now? also what barriers would possibly stop someone who does live on that amount from the ability to preserve their wealth did you not see my other links about people in Africa and el salvador doing exactly just that
Living in a country with 50% inflation is being well off now?
Having enough money to travel while living in such a country is relatively well-of, compared to other people in the same country who might be starving to death. Regardless of what the inflation rate happens to be at the moment.
Anyway, two things are certain:
we’re not going to agree
cryptocurrencies are not going to make any place better
For that you’d need real political change, and taking stock of power structures in the society, instead of a scammy investment vehicle useful almost only to the (relatively) well-of that happens to support the very same power structures.
yeah so the people in africa and el salvador using crypto that are preserving their purchasing power are being scammed I never said that crypto was this perfect thing that’d fix everything and I have constantly presented it as only a stopgap solution to help in the meanwhile. I’m going to give a real scenario in my country the banking system is controlled by a cartel that funds the two major political parties in power these banks knowing of their situation have denied accounts to any alternative political parties and it’s not farfetched they could make up something to pin on these parties so that banks in other countries would cooperate with them and block them from making accounts in those countries as well what other than crypto would provide a neutral payment platform to ensure that we can fund our only hope of having a functional country whether through the ballot box/violent revolution you need money to be able to form the government and if you don’t have that then sorry you’re shit out of luck. We’ve been granted bailout from the imf time and time again for the politicians to loot our treasury and raise taxes in order to keep our country on life i’ll say it again debt relief is relief we also have plenty of people whether local or foreign who performs acts of kindness everyday of course it help it somewhat but as long as we have the same political parties in power we’ll forever be receivers and not givers and as long as they still breath the oligarchs will use any means to crush any chance of us gaining political and economic power including through weaponizing the centralized banking system even if all turns out happily ever after the possibility of the centralized banking system being weaponized will always be possible and crypto is the only payment system that is uncensorable
That’s like saying “tax deductions are charity”. Which is to say, untrue. Charity is personal, debt forgiveness is public policy.
That is demonstrably untrue. The source code is accessible, sure, but ability to read it and reason about it is a whole different thing. And as smart contract bugs and all other sorts of problems with code related to “defi” show, that ability is not really doing them much good.
And before you go on a tangent about how “open source is important”, I’ve been doing FLOSS activism for way over a decade now.
Dunno, man, can’t remember being asked where I want to be born in either, even though I come from the so-called “Western World”. 🤷
And crypto helps here… how exactly?
Again, I guess we’ll never know!
please open a dictionary whether or not an act of kindness is done by an individual/company/government doesn’t alter the fact that it’s charity.
The same could be said about all open source software even if they aren’t technical it’s not wholly impossible to get in touch with people are and make a decision again it’s their decision whether or not to get involved with something they don’t fully comprehend no one is holding a gun to their head forcing them to do so.
The point you idiot is that they don’t get to choose to be born in place with loads of corruption and you being born in the west isn’t a curse like being born in a third world country is at the end of the day the chances are high that you have the capital needed/can find someone to give you the capital if you needed/wanted to move somewhere else and do so safely
It gives them a way to preserve their purchasing power while they’re stuck in that hellhole and save up to be able to move somewhere nicer
Wait, I’m confused. You kept bringing up how the financial system is corrupt, and kept giving examples from the West. Now you’re saying that there is not loads of corruption in “the West”?
Which one is it?
I kinda think calling certain countries “hellholes” is kinda racist, don’t you?
Also, what purchasing power is there to be preserved, exactly, when people in such circumstances often earn less than $5.5 per day while BTC transaction fees “plummeted” down to ~$2?
And before you start calling me names again and telling me that there are other cryptocurrencies, perhaps consider when exactly a person living on $5.50 per day and working all-day shifts is supposed to do their research into cryptocurrencies, not to mention reading the code and the smart contracts to make sure all is nice and dandy.
Outside, of course, of right-libertarian fantasy world, not all too much different from Cryptoland perhaps, which is so cringe and intethered from reality that it is literally a meme. 🤣
My examples came from third world countries as well plus it should be very obvious the level of corruption in the west doesn’t affect the daily lives of a majority of it’s citizens while in the third world it does.
Racism is the discrimination of a person/group of persons based on their race/ethnicity how does my use of hellhole do that all I’m doing is highlighting the negative conditions of those countries not discriminating against their inhabitants.
https://internationalfinance.com/the-rise-of-crypto-adoption-in-africa/
https://www.bitcoinbeach.com/
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/markets/lightning-network-bitcoin-usage-adoption-el-salvador
Living on Defi: How I Survive Argentina’s 50% Inflation - Mariano Conti at Devcon 5 https://piped.kavin.rocks/watch?v=ZEPx-iS7sz8
Ah, so you’re saying that Western political systems and financial sector regulations mostly work, then?
This is how.
Yeah, pretty sure that person does not, in fact, live on $5.50 per day. Which is exactly my point: cryptocurrencies do not lift poor people out of their circumstances, cryptocurrencies cushion the already well-off and give the very rich them one more tool to use to extract wealth from others.
they work fine enough for people to not starve to death and die of preventable diseases but they could be sooooooooooooooooooooooo much better whether or not people want that it’s up to them.
I call my country a hellhole all the time I don’t care about the opinions of trump and other people just that we make them stop being hellholes.
Living in a country with 50% inflation is being well off now? also what barriers would possibly stop someone who does live on that amount from the ability to preserve their wealth did you not see my other links about people in Africa and el salvador doing exactly just that
Having enough money to travel while living in such a country is relatively well-of, compared to other people in the same country who might be starving to death. Regardless of what the inflation rate happens to be at the moment.
Anyway, two things are certain:
For that you’d need real political change, and taking stock of power structures in the society, instead of a scammy investment vehicle useful almost only to the (relatively) well-of that happens to support the very same power structures.
yeah so the people in africa and el salvador using crypto that are preserving their purchasing power are being scammed I never said that crypto was this perfect thing that’d fix everything and I have constantly presented it as only a stopgap solution to help in the meanwhile. I’m going to give a real scenario in my country the banking system is controlled by a cartel that funds the two major political parties in power these banks knowing of their situation have denied accounts to any alternative political parties and it’s not farfetched they could make up something to pin on these parties so that banks in other countries would cooperate with them and block them from making accounts in those countries as well what other than crypto would provide a neutral payment platform to ensure that we can fund our only hope of having a functional country whether through the ballot box/violent revolution you need money to be able to form the government and if you don’t have that then sorry you’re shit out of luck. We’ve been granted bailout from the imf time and time again for the politicians to loot our treasury and raise taxes in order to keep our country on life i’ll say it again debt relief is relief we also have plenty of people whether local or foreign who performs acts of kindness everyday of course it help it somewhat but as long as we have the same political parties in power we’ll forever be receivers and not givers and as long as they still breath the oligarchs will use any means to crush any chance of us gaining political and economic power including through weaponizing the centralized banking system even if all turns out happily ever after the possibility of the centralized banking system being weaponized will always be possible and crypto is the only payment system that is uncensorable
Oh wow, that’s a lot of energy (and thought, I guess) that went into writing this one!
Bit unfortunate most people (including yours truly) will just ignore this wall of text due to lack of punctuation and general readability. 🤷♀️