A New Jersey woman who was found bound with zip ties in the woods and marked with a derogatory phrase referencing President Donald Trump is now accused of staging the attack.
Natalie Greene, 26, is charged with conspiracy to convey false statements and hoaxes and making false statements to federal law enforcement.
According to court documents, Greene and a co-conspirator called 911 late July 23 and claimed that three men had attacked them on a trail at the Egg Harbor Township Nature Reserve. The co-conspirator told dispatchers the men referenced Greene by name and mentioned her job in politics. According to reports, Greene previously worked for a Republican congressman.
This is some real imbecile shit
We’ve got some real winners out here in Jersey, unfortunately.
When leftists attack so few people (no, Charlie Kirk’s shooter wasn’t a leftist) that they just need to fake their own shit all the damn time.
(no, Charlie Kirk’s shooter wasn’t a leftist)
Yes he was, and I dont really understand why anyone is making this an argument. If he was right wing, he would have loved Kirk. Everyone who knows him said he was holding very strong pro LGBT opinions, something an extremist right winger wouldnt. He was also dating a trans woman… I mean, need I go on?
Why the fuck are you all so bothered that this nutjob was one of yours??? Its not like youre an unhinged psycho as well, just because you share opinions.
The suspect has not made a comment on his political leanings. The only person who has is Utah Republican governor Spencer Cox, and republican president Donald Trump, neither of which are well known for their level headed honesty.
Nothing that I said is in dispute. So the question still stands, why do any of you care???
Because I’m an immigrant and green card holder and the current administration is adversarial towards people like me, and stoking those fires leads to a worse quality of life for me and my family.
And what does any of that have to do with the shooter??? Am I a speaking a different fucking language here? What does you being an immigrant have to do with whether of not the shooter was left or right wing???
The confidence you have to belittle the person you’re responding to is called privilege - you comment without fear, and have provided 0 credible citations to your claims that he was pro-alphabet people. Don’t just pretend to be judicious, it’s pretty blatant. Dont @ me unless you have citations.
lol The pretentious have arrived…
You obviously can understand simple psychology that no one wants someone who commits a heinous crime to be on their side… like it’s not complicated why no one wants to claim him…
And yet that side was all to happy to take to the internet and cheer on his actions, making social media posts in celebration. Making memes mocking the death of Kirk. And worst of all, calling for the rest of his family to met a similar fate. Including his fucking children.
Youll have to run that one by me again, big chap. Im getting a big ol whiff of shit coming out the kitchen as you try to serve it…
He was a known goyper (REALLY far right extremist) through his social media accountsb
Bro really doesnt know about ideological infighting.
most yankees don’t have coherent political views
He was a mormon kid who wanted people to be nice to each other. And shot someone about it. That’s not really right or left.
People who agree with the right are pretty much always psycho nutjobs in some way, so yes.
Youre the right, ya dope. America has no left wing.
He was a 4chan nihilist.
“Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, dude, at least it’s an ethos.”
It has nothing to do with what he “would have” thought of Kirk. What’s established by his family’s testimony is that he broke from their conservative ideologies not long before his heinous act and expressed sympathy for Leftist views. Yes, he absolutely was Left-leaning, but came from a Right-wing family.
Ultimately, it doesn’t really matter. The statistics still show the Right-wing extremists are more violent on average, and by a long shot.
and by a long shot.
heinous act
lmao. The dude was literally using weasel words to imply trans people and black people are responsible for school shootings when his neck did that.
Stopping him from justifying violence against marginalized people is the opposite of heinous.
Man, you really are the good guys in all of this…
so he’s at most a centrist from that information
In a county of right and further right? No. Hes just more to your right than their right.
Oh, another one?
This should serve as a reminder that fascists will do ANYTHING to get what they want.
Also should serve as a reminder that you should believe NOTHING they say or claim, no matter how atrocious, because the chances of it being bullshit are higher than it being truth, and what nothing more than to provoke civil unrest if not outright civil war with their lies and bullshit.
Isnt she also covered in scars cause she said the imaginary liberals cut her up?
This should convince most folks the right are trying to start a civil war, but it won’t.
LeopardSuicide?
I’m more surprised the DOJ is going after her for this rather than giving her a medal.
That was very Smollett-minded of her.
Yep he was the first thing I thought of too
Reminds me more of the Ashley Todd mugging hoax since she was a Republican claiming to be attacked by an Obama supporter in 2008.
Why is it always the right entangling themselves in crime?
So were the words “Trump whore” what she had cut in to her, or was it random cuts with TW written in sharpie or something?
Me: I wonder how they know it was staged
But investigators later concluded Greene had staged the attack, alleging she paid a body modification artist earlier to make it look like she was injured. Officers also found zip ties in Greene’s vehicle similar to those used on her, and the co-conspirator’s phone had been used two days earlier to search “zip ties near me."
Lol
It’s a miracle she didn’t Google “Someone to scratch letters into my skin near me”
These fuckers dont even know tk clear their own cache and cookies…
That doesn’t mean anything. They can request your browsing history directly from your ISP
Correct, but the way they found out was just a quick look at browsering history. Sometimes just doing a basic bit of cover up to not make things immediately obvious can go a long way.
Unless you know something we don’t, your ISP shouldn’t know much about your browsing history
The ISPs don’t know what exactly you saw on the site because of SSL, but they’re processing your traffic and have complete visibility of which IPs you visit. If you keep the default ISP DNS server they also know which domain names. As far as I know, the only way to keep your ISP completely in the dark is to use VPN, plus a third-party DNS server, plus DNS encryption.
THE ZIP TIES ARE COMING FROM THE HOUSE.
Did… did this idiot think they weren’t going to go to the hospital with her and then when the ER doc tried to clean the wound it… wiped away…that the police were going to just think the 3 guys where just wanting to have a dress up tea party or something.
Oh no no, she committed to the scam harder than that. She paid a body modification artist to cut her up.
That makes it even funnier. She now has permanent reminders of how fucking stupid she is.
“She had lacerations on her face, neck, chest and shoulder”
Scarification is a form of body mod
A body mod artist does literally wound you, it’s not paint. It’s plugs cut out, sub dermals inserted, or just ears pierced if you’re vanilla, that’s the sort of thing they do.
ER staff smells that BS in seconds of opening her mouth.
did this idiot think
Lemme stop you right there.
Lol fair enough
I wasn’t aware zip ties were that hard to find for some people
I guess when you order everything online your whole life, you may never develop a sense of what stores and what departments items are usually sold in. 🤔
I’m a regular customer at home improvement stores, and I make it a point to occasionally just go wander down aisles I haven’t been down in a while and just browse through what’s available.
It’s not uncommon for me to exclaim, “Oh! I didn’t know THAT existed?” or “Oh! THAT’S what that’s called/where to get those!”. Other times it’s, “What on earth is THAT for?!?” but then 6 months later I’ll be like, “BRB, gotta go get one of those things.”
I’m of the opinion that even people that don’t own/maintain their own home would benefit from the esoteric knowledge of what can be found on the bottom shelf in the back corner of their local home improvement stores. I don’t care what your hobby or passion is. If you don’t frequent the home improvement stores, there’s probably something there that you can repurpose for your own benefit that you’ll wish you knew existed a year ago.
If you have them nearby, it’s also good to know what’s at building/home resale places, like Habitat for Humanity re-store. Many of them have a lot more variety than you’d think, including furniture, tools, chains and wires, paint, etc. in addition to building materials. Sometimes they get big donations of new stuff like tile, lightbulbs, or insulation. I just got 10 LED lightbulbs for $3.50 total.
Excellent point, yes. The one near us frequently has the weirdest stuff. Last summer we were browsing around and they had some fancy office desk made by some well known artist with a $40k price tag. It was just shoved back in the corner with a bunch of $5-20 desks and tables.
I totally agree. Browsing seems to be going away with moving from physical to algorithmically presented online stores.
Geeez, have some respect for yourself and throw yourself down a hill and get some real cuts/bruises. Its like they made no effort to cover any tracks.
Really stupid. She could have just said a slur on tik tok and been a millionaire from donations by now.
They really like to manufacture unreality and sell it as true.
This one is super weird though. Why in the world would anyone hog tie someone like that and then write shit about trump on her? I’m guessing she’s another alcoholic for trump. Regardless, she’s in for a ride:
Each count carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.
Why in the world would anyone hog tie someone like that and then write shit about trump on her?
For the same reason these people think that someone would Sharpie “FUCK ICE” onto a clip of bullets after killing only detainees at an ICE facility, and then just plop it on the ground.
i think it was ‘anti-ice’ written with a pen, which is even moreso clearly fake
And a pardon from Trump.
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Why in the world would anyone hog tie someone like that and then write shit about trump on her?
Many MAGAts that face social consequences for their MAGAtism cry victim and and then circled with attention and monetary support by other MAGAts. Since they aren’t actually victims and they want the attention, they manufacture the victim status.
Sadly this isn’t confined to MAGAts. Actor Jussie Smollett did the same thing attempting to manufacture victimhood of a hate crime. What really angers me about Smollett is that there are real victims of race based hate crimes and his antics cast doubt on those other real victim’s situations.
It’s not as weird once you realize that they need everyone to be as crazy and stupid as they are. They can’t stand a world where that’s not true.
They want to start a civil war.
So go shoot somebody on the “other side”. Tying yourself up in the woods makes no sense.
They do that too. But in this case they don’t have to do the icky parts, they just get someone else to do it.
She’s white, she’ll get probation at most
Presidential pardon incoming.
Edit: This was federal charges being brought, 2 counts. See comment below for further details on the absolute insanity of these shenanigans.
Doesn’t apply to state. The governor would need to do that, and neither the current nor the next is going to be interested in that.
I figured if the DOJ was investigating it was federal.
Yup you are right, in another article (much earlier) they mentioned charges by the state, but this one calls out the DOJ specifically.
The other article was crap, apparently.
Not only did she call 911, she reached out to and told the FBI she had been receiving threatening messages. As it turns out, the messages they did find were with a scarification artist (I didnt know that was a thing) in PA, along with a copy of the receipt for about $500 in work she had done just prior to the “event”. Along with a reddit account where she followed scarification and body mod subreddits. The scarification artist performed the work based on a design she provided.
So the charges came through the US AG for NJ, not the NJ AG per the other shitty article.
The original investigation was by township, county, and state officials, and I guess with her claims that brought on FBI involvement as well.
mental illness
That’s an odd way of spelling “Trump supporter”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jussie_Smollett_hate_crime_hoax
this behaviour isn’t exclusive to one political group
Yea we know, but it’s way way more prevalent on the magats side of the isle. This isn’t a both sides thing at all
NOT familiar at all! Nuh-uh!
lolo “Blacks Rule” 😂 i just can’t with these ppl
Left is best
What’s this?
A racist trying to make it look like he was the victim of a hate crime. That’s a Mississippi state flag in front of him, Confederate version.
This is the shit children do. Like LITTLE kids, like under 10 when they try to “trick” you. I remember doing something like this when I was maybe 7. I pretended to be crushed by a pile of fallen (empty cardboard) boxes. My mom walked by and just ignored me.
Imagine being A FULLY GROWN MAN. Yikes
As if that’s what someone would write when spray painting a Nazis home. 🙄
It’s all projection. You know for a fact he’d love to spray paint “WHITES RULE” on a black family’s home.
Last living confederate veteran.
I hope a critter peed on her
Edit: anyone who can’t guess where to buy zip ties is a moron
Jesus, I had to go into the article to figure out what you were talking about and it’s so pathetic.
But investigators later concluded Greene had staged the attack, alleging she paid a body modification artist earlier to make it look like she was injured. Officers also found zip ties in Greene’s vehicle similar to those used on her, and the co-conspirator’s phone had been used two days earlier to search “zip ties near me."
“zip ties near me”, amazing, perfectly fitting for our era of unreality
It was so weird that it jumped out at me lol
I know where to buy regular zip ties for like bundling things or securing wires, but I gotta be honest; other than online, I don’t know where I would go to buy zip tie hand cuffs. Do you?
She didn’t specify handcuffs. The search was simply “zip ties near me”
So you think she tied herself up with regular old zip ties? Based only on that?
Read the article.
Impossible!
