No, that’s not what they mean.
Seriously, OP is straw-manning. There’s not this much politics on other sites. Lemmy has a ton of tankies so everything is about communism here
Yeah, when I’m doing the whole “no politics” thing it’s because the same issues keep being rehashed and even if I’m invested in them it still gets unpleasant when a conversation becomes circular.
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Hmmmmm you sould like a rightoid 🧐🤔 /s
They need to more precisely say what they mean, then.
No, they really don’t. For most of us, “stop making everything political” is a simple and clear request that can be fulfilled with 0 follow-up questions.
Now all I can imagine is a Simpsons character named Political Perry who struggles to live in a society not interested in politics as much as a second year college student.
Wife left with the kids, doesn’t get invited to social events, nothing in life going right for him, but he doesn’t understand why.
“Oh, shit. It’s Political Perry. Once asked the guy if he wanted ketchup and was ranted to about the corporate exploitation of the agricultural sector for half an hour. No one look.”
That sounds exactly like something the Simpsons would do. Either that, or it would be Lisa it happens to.
My opinion:
I think this community should ban political memes, and instead have another community for only political memes. I’m from Costa Rica and I don’t care about the USA politics or stuff
Right? It’s such a US way of thinking to assume the entire world needs to hear about your issues.
If an American said this about any of the international news we see, I’m sure it would get a ton of upvotes
You don’t really get that by banning a topic, but rather by fostering a culture where that sort of thing is frowned upon.
And you can foster it with rules and moderation.
“Political Memes” is extremely vague. I opened the community, and this was the 3rd meme that came up. Just to show you that it doesn’t take much to find an example that really blurs the line of what would be a political meme and what isn’t.
As a representative of slrpnk.net, yeah, it’s a fair bit political
But but… landlord bad? capitalism also bad??
Obviously
I am also from the 97 fuckin percent of every human on the planet that couldn’t give a shit about US politics
Sometimes people just want to take a shit in peace.
I hope it was one of those poops where you felt lighter afterwards, and that wiping afterwards wasn’t an ordeal
That was… extremely nice of you to say.
We should hang out by the quarry and throw things down there.
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The very fact you’re able to do all of this is an effect of politics. And there are people that also would like to have similar rights to exist the way the feel is right for them, but they can’t.
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Some people do this and have a grand ole time with no concerns
Some people do the exact same thing and have police called on them every time because they “must be up to something.”
So yep, political.
Freedom of association = (meeting with friends) that’s definitely political
Barbecue = relatively safe to use and won’t explode because of government regulation, politics.
Jalapeño poppers = safe to eat due to food safety standards, again politics.
Conversation with friends = regulated by societal norms and acceptable behaviours, an output of the political environment - ‘let’s not talk about Trump or abortion to keep it “civil”’
Games/books/puzzle = function of the economy regulated by the government and laws. Consumer protections etc etc
I know you’re trying to be dismissive and funny but yeah…you’re just proving the point.
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Does anyone ever talk to you in real life?
Absolutely.
Imaginary friends count right?
Jesus christ you’re insufferable.
We all know Jesus can’t save us now.
You better watch out. It takes Jesus 4.5 seconds to get to earth
Shit, he’s closer than the sun! How long is it relative to him?
Isn’t there literally a community called politicalmemes because people wanted to sort these into another place?
At this point you’re not even posting to be funny, you’re just posting to be annoying.
some would even consider it not only annoying, but spamming as well
That’s for people who want only political memes. Someone should start an “apoliticalmemes” group.
Haven’t thought of that. Thanks :)
Even chosen linux distro?
Damn
I work in the government and let me tell you: Yes
I mean, depending on how much you value privacy and the virtues of FOSS…maybe not directly political, but I’m sure some correlations could be made.
Every single time a gripe about privacy is brought up on Lemmy or some issue with iOS or Windows, Linux users come out of the woodwork. It is 100% political as privacy becomes more and more of a concern.
Everything is political. My poli sci teacher said it best: when you boil it down, politics in the most simplest terms is just getting things done.
Especially Linux distro! Now, give me a pulseaudio snap package for my Unity desktop.
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According to Lemmy that’s the most important political decision there is.
I reject this! This sounds edgy but muddies the water and distracts as to recognize what politics is. Politics is everything regarding decision-making in groups! not more not less. Recognize when that’s the case and fight!
I think our definitions of politics are fundamentally different.
I would say politics is the struggle for power.
Power is the underlying factor across all of society so politics affects everything.
If you want to understand why the other definition is more useful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQjcmDGY2vA
Me so hungy, me so hungy!
Bad meme and bad opinion.
You’re wrong.
Not a little wrong, just, wrong.
Go and talk to a politic science professor and they will tell you this.
You can’t escape politics because it’s linked to power.
Power structures affect everything in our society therefore politics affects everything.
When someone doesn’t want to ‘make it political’ all they are really doing is attempting to preserve an existing power structure they are a beneficiary of.
Ever considered that politics is not always the essence of everything? I don’t care that fundamentally everything may be political. I don’t care that we are made up of millions of tiny organisms. I care about the things I care. And that’s not your political agenda.
Politics is not the essence of everything “To YOU” because you won the genetic/sociopolitical lottery. You sit comfortably atop the suffering of the “other,” who does not have the luxury of playing this apolitical card.
I really didn’t won the genetic/sociopolitical lottery…
Great but you see when you say ‘I don’t care about other people’ then we loudly don’t want to care about you back. That is pretty much it, I don’t know why you need to foghorn that you are selfish, is it to rile up others to violence in name of their selfishness? Explain why you have to explain that you don’t need something so badly, we dont need anything if we dont wish to live so whats the actual fucking point here to "DONT NEED IT’ except to also say “OR ELSE” which is… ALSO A POLITICAL STATEMENT OR ELSE.
You’re apathetic about it because you benefit from the current structure.
You don’t have to care when you’re already a winner.
Did you ever consider maybe it’s just people already talk about politics in a lot of other places, and don’t need to talk about it literally 24/7?
When I am cranking it to a model on Only Fans, that’s what I want to think about, not about what politicians may have paid to lick their butthole privately.
So yeah, everything is absolutely political, but sometimes you need a few degrees of separation.
Uh no on the contrary. My true self is apparently appalling and unnatural.
Do you not benefit from the current structure? Who built your phone? I wonder how much they think about politics.
Yes I do benefit and I think it’s unjust which is why I’m a socialist.
I also think it’s unjust, but I don’t shoehorn it into every conversation.
you make socialists look bad
I don’t think you care about their optics beyond brow beating them for having an opinion that upsets you.
Sometimes people just want to freely discuss stuff without the overarching politics.
Did you ever think about that?
Then they should say that instead of trying to refute that just about everything is political because just about everything is political.
They literally are? If they are having a discussion and someone brings politics up, “stop making everything political” would mean what else than I don’t want politics in this discussion…?
Thats literally an attempted refutation of everything is inherently political. Its already political, no one you’re talking to made it political, they just reminded you of something you tried to ignore. So again if you just dont want to talk about politics, just say that instead of trying to refute that pretty much everything is inherently political. Words have meaning, say what you mean, because implying that the person you’re talking to is making thing political is different from saying ‘hey im not trying to talk about politics’ and it doesn’t automatically mean the same thing as “Why do you make everything political”, especially in forms of communication like text only. Hell, one of them is a question and the other is a statement, so why would anyone who doesn’t want to talk about politics prompt someone with a question that in guaranteed to get an answer that’s directly about politics?
Only if you incorrectly take it that way, in the context of the conversation, it would mean, you’re trying to make this political, fuck off.
People can only respond to the words on the screen, not the ones you wanted to say, if you ask someone a question expect an answer. I can’t make it simpler.
Just because it’s important doesn’t mean we aren’t allowed to have happy conversations that don’t involve politics which is basically what you are saying we should never do.
Just talk about the happy politics. /s
Remember when Regan got Alzheimer’s?
Lol good times
Remember when Thatcher died?
Funniest shit I ever heard.
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While I do agree that most things in life are somehow connected to politics and that it needs to be discussed, when I come somewhere, in real life or online, and I want to chill out, I really don’t want to hear about it. Political communities exist, even here on Lemmy. Let’s keep politics out of cooking, meme, and other not politically oriented communities please :)
I was once up in some reddit thread during the George Floyd protests/defunding the police, and some dipshit had the lack of education to earnestly say “since when is the police a political issue?”
My dude. They share a the same root word.
literally everything is politics
how is nitrogen atom nr. 14729583929174 political?
Becauses a scientist says it exists and that made God cry so we gotta burn him.
And this is how you get from “everything is politics” to “we have to burn god”
Edit: After rereading the above I noticed the possibility of the scientist having to be burned
Rules are simple: both enter, one leaves.
Do we give them a lighter or something beforehand?
Emotional damage only.
Oh that would be even more interesting to watch
At least pick a noble gas
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Yes yes I used hyperbole.
Sue me.
yes I wrote “literally everything” but that does’nt mean that I meant “literally everything”
I can accept that
ok so now that we’ve established that there are things that aren’t political, it makes sense to say “don’t make everything political”, because there are in fact things that aren’t political (yet). however responding “literally everything is political, if you think otherwise, you’re profiting from the system” doesn’t make sense, since there are non political things
I don’t have time to explain how you moved the goal posts from:
Everything is politics does not literally mean all matter is comprised of politics (I.e. atoms are a thing)
To
Atoms exists therefore there are social issues that aren’t political.
All social issues remain political even in a world with atoms.
Edit: turns out I did have time.
Atoms exists therefore there are social issues that aren’t political.
I never said that and this isn’t my opinion.
you didn’t say “every social issue is political” (which I agree with btw), you said “everything is political”. and since “everything” includes atoms, they are either political and you’re right or they’re not and you’re wrong.
“literally everything is political”
ok then, can you remove the hyperbole and tell me the result?
(spoiler: they wont)
I once got warned in a discord server for being political. Brought up that everything was politics and they backed off.
About a week later I got hints that they might be a bit of a nazi bar which was confirmed when I called it out.
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That same dad when I happen to mention my trans friend in passing because it’s my friend:
three hour rant about me being men and testicles are a thing for a reason and this mother fucker is destroying America
Y’all “let’s not politic” folk politic ALL the time, you just think you can “nuh uh” to pick and choose what qualifies. Denying Healthcare to people isn’t political to yall, but I just cut a friend out because he literally shushed me for “being too political” for… Saying I’d like half hour busses back.
Alright then:
breathes deep
The toilet paper is supposed to point away from you.
Whoa whoa whoa let’s not make it all political buddy.
Alright, everyone, calm down. Let’s not kink-shame this guy for setting up his toilet paper to dom him every time he poops.
You reach for that shit-rag, you miserable degenerate. You don’t deserve to have it presented to you, and don’t let anyone tell you different!
Actually, I stand the roll on the edge of the counter like a true Chad
Calm down satan
Over the top is the correct way and I will die* on this hill.
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- not really, at most I’d probably reply once, maybe twice, to a rebuttal if it is interesting. And then id just forget it. But oh boy, the next time it’s brought up, I’ll claim to die on that hill again.
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You have alerted the horde.